The Armour Archive

Gerhard von Liebau

Well, as a MAJOR generalization, it does in fact fall under the term "coat of plates," but according to most, you'd consider it a form of brigandine, which is in itself a style of coat-of-plates, so to speak. The terms have become less of one and the same, it seems, though. Especially around here. -...

Gerhard von Liebau

*Claps for vote of confidence*

*Silence*

Whatever...

Actaully, I guess Justin and I wouldn't mind you making those, BF. I have enough to do as it is. We'd appreciate it!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Can someone say "wow!"

Now I can't wait for Dave (Cet) to finish my bascinet!

Wow! That is just too cool... I've never seen a visor that seems to flow so smoothly with the surface of the helmet, yet remain so defined as a seperate piece of metal!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Well, I've worked with Amazon a lot, and with purchases of over $50, you get free shipping anyway... So, I think I'll go that way:D

Alibris has really good prices on lots of stuff, though... I just haven't taken the plunge and made an order with them, yet!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

I think I'm gonna' get mine from Amazon. They have them in-stock, I believe, and they're $53.

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

This'll definitely be the next book I get my grubby little hands on! Thanks for the offer as well, Bullfrog! I appreciate it! Maybe Justin will pop in here and reinstate the offer after the amount of metalwork he's seen me do...

Lol...

I want this book so bad!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Hey guys! I got my order in today! Everything fits perfectly, and I have not had any problem with the braies slipping. They held the chausses, which are a tad bit loose (except in the feet, where they're a PERFECT fit, down to a slight squeeze!) and I had no problems sitting, jumpin' around a bit, a...

Gerhard von Liebau

Hey Christian, Thanks for the reply. May I ask if the turnshoes will be stocked in size 12? I think I'm going to purchase a pair of the 14th century shoes, and then wait for the turnshoes afterwards. I'll use the latter for historic reenactment, and the "14th century" shoes for combat, etc... -Grego...

Gerhard von Liebau

Would this shoe be more accurate for an early 14th century portrayal than your other ones? I like both, so the only difference to me is the accuracy...

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Plus, if you break it down, it is a coat, and it is made of plates of metal, thus Coat of Plates. The claimed title is a bit decieving... It's more like a brigandine than a coat-of-plates, by far... And even then, you should call it a "fantasy brigandine." I'm not tryin' to be an ass, but knowing w...

Gerhard von Liebau

Oh, well, an armoured surcoat is an entirely different affair. Far from being the same as a "coat-of-plates." Yes, armoured surcoats are very cool, though! I plan on making one myself, for SCA combat.

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Looks good. May I ask what type of tutorials from this site you used for that? It seems to be more of a cross between a proper brigandine and a Braveheart (aka- fantasy) style "coat-of-plates." What is generally referred to as a coat-of-plates in the historic sense of the word is a type of body armo...

Gerhard von Liebau

Thanks again for the advice. I was planning on getting the 12's. I'll hopefully place my order by the end of the week, and I'm expecting my clothing to arrive from HE Tuesday afternoon, so I have a lot to look forward too!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Sounds like a fun project! You don't have to worry about being "too cheap" for leather, since it's actually more realistic to use canvas, in a historic sense, I believe. Interested in seein' the pictures of it all comin' together!

Oh, and welcome to the Armour Archive forums!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Check around the Lord of the Rings section over at www.UCForums.com and just look at the official reproduction to see what size they chose! "Overall Length: 54-1/2" tall x 20-7/8" wide " m [img]http://www.cbswords.com/images/UC1428.jpg[/img] http://www.cbswords.com/images/UC1428_back.jpg Cheers! -Gr...

Gerhard von Liebau

Thanks for the links, Ceddie! I think I'm going to get a pair of Revival's shoes, along with an arming cap from them... So, I guess this thread wasn't very long lived, 'eh?

Cheers!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Hey folks, I'm lookin' for someone who is either willing to part with, or to make a pair of turnshoes. My feet are about 11 inches long, and 4.5" wide when flat on the ground at the widest point. I'd like the shoes in brown leather, and to be rather "generic" as I'll be using them for 12th-14th cent...

Gerhard von Liebau

Hey Patrick,

The nasal helmet looks super! Does the company have a website? I'd really like to see some more of their work! The clean look that that helmet has has grabbed me in particular...

Very neat.

Thanks for sharing!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Orazio, I was under the impression that for an outfit from around this time an aketon would be more appropriate than a pourpoint... What exactly is the advantage of having a pourpoint over an aketon? I'd personally like both mine and Justin's outfits to have padded sleeves on their garments, which w...

Gerhard von Liebau

Matt doesn't, because the weight of all of that armor is enough to impede his running ability, anyway...

Har, har, har...

Actually, Matt makes a better skinny-arsed Mycenaean, if you ask me.

[img]http://www.larp.com/hoplite/myc2.jpg[/img]

Cheers!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Well, I may have to go with some plate stuff, instead... Here's Sir William Fitzralph, for anyone interested. Circa 1323, as Orazio stated. http://www.gothiceye.com/images/large/KN027-2.jpg And here are a couple more from the era... http://www.gothiceye.com/images/large/KN025-2.jpg -de Bacon, 1320 h...

Gerhard von Liebau

@ Rey- m From what I've seen of the SCA, I'd try to get anything fixed that isn't made or worn with one of these two purposes in mind... (and hopefully both will be considered) A) Being historically accurate for the portrayal of the fighter. B) Being durable for the safety of the fighter yet conceal...

Gerhard von Liebau

It depends on how much you have left over. My 14th century suit of armor, which actually only is going to incorperate a small amount of plate armor, is going to cost me over $2,000 for quality items. But, that's without making much of it myself. If you have the steel for the plate armor, you should ...

Gerhard von Liebau

Hey folks and flies, My friend Justin is currently putting together his SCA gear at a less rapid pace than I am, because I'm able to afford to buy more things than him since he's so lazy... No, actually, he just enjoys making things a bit more than I do, that's all! I'm planning on making a set of v...

Gerhard von Liebau

For those of us that grew up in Dinuba, its the only part of California that matters, no one in their right mind would want to live South of there Haha! That's so true... Headed south past Tulare and west past Hanford, there really isn't much in the valley! The Central Valley is where it's all at, ...

Gerhard von Liebau

Not to be nitpicky, but wasn't most of the Rohirrim armor made from leather? Besides mail, you are correct. But, members of the royal family, high guard, and obviously some other individuals had plate. The plate of the king and his nephew was covered in rich leather, but definitely metal beneath. D...

Gerhard von Liebau

Lolol, I happen to draw my line somewhere at the borders on each side, I suppose. It only seems relevant!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

Hey folks, I was at a track meet in Coalinga until 11:00 last night, so I didn't get online. Sorry I haven't responded yet! Gwen, I got the email, but my mom explained the situation first, and she called before that. I won't be replyin' to that one, which I'm sure you've figured out by now... I deci...

Gerhard von Liebau

For eye candy, here are a couple of the other ones on the site (www.lucaolivieri.net) that I like from the era. Mainly from the "Teutonic" sections. http://www.lucaolivieri.net/images_A11/03_02_b.jpg http://www.lucaolivieri.net/images_006/Teutonic_Knight_Peiupus_1242_Soldiers_001_b.jpg http://www.lu...

Gerhard von Liebau

Well, if someone liked it enough without the grill, they could always order it and have an extra globose visor made for it! I think it's a wonderful looking piece, but agree that the bargrill takes away from the overall picture of it... Most bargrills tend to do that, though!

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

you might be a little careful when you wash yours. That's what I was thinking too, David... I'll only be taking the linen items to the dry-cleaners, actually. Pure linen is pretty hard to wash correctly, and my mom said she doesn't want to chance it. Anyway, the order went through last night, and I...

Gerhard von Liebau

The plate placements on the coat are not overlapping, which is not correct. Wulfe, that is not a coat-of-plates. It's a mid-13th century armored surcoat, like the one we have a pattern for here on the archive: m The plates did not overlap on these. I don't plan on putting horns on any of the great ...

Gerhard von Liebau

Hey guys, I'm havin' trouble comin' up with much information for great helms from about 1250 or so. I have the Osprey book "English Medieval Knight 1200-1300" by Christopher Gravett. In plate E, it shows a flat-topped great helm that looks to be constructed from a single piece of metal around the ci...

Gerhard von Liebau

Hey, thanks for the compliments, guys! I'm gonna' make sure to get the finished product of this little pouch posted in here... Hopefully some more hats, soon, too! I only have enough leather left for one, at the moment.

-Gregory-

Gerhard von Liebau

I'd guess it's a typo for 17.5 pounds, or something like that...

Interesting, though! I never think of European settlers in America as having more Medieval/Reniassance style arms and armor, because our US history books generally begin during the 18th century!

Very cool.

-Gregory-

WANTED: Brown leather turnshoes, size 11/12

Splinted Armor- 1320?

Great Helm patterns, circa 1250