The Armour Archive

RenJunkie

Are you carrying any 13th century styled ankle shoes?

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

This is one of my favorite helms ever......

One day.....one day....

Christopher

RenJunkie

Yeah, but those are the next step up for me. And mine will cost a bit more cause I'll want him to take them a bit higher ( I have long legs...lol). The Revival clothing ones are a bit of a reach. The Revival.us ones are closer to my budget. But I can splurge the extra 30 bucks. Splurging an extra hu...

RenJunkie

Ok, that's a terrible question to ask. But I can't afford the shoes I want. I gotta wear something (my Mary Rose shoes just won't look right with my 13th century clothes), so....which of these shoes look to you guys most right for an impression in the 3rd quarter of the 13th century? There's these f...

RenJunkie

Aha....Thanks for the links. Judging from the links you all have shared, it looks like solid was most common, with kings and really really big wigs showing their heraldry on cotes. Is there a huge master list of period manuscripts and statues and effigies, etc and where to find them online or in har...

RenJunkie

The fellow on the far left of the first image looks like he may be wearing maille.

What's going on in the underside of his cloak? likes like the lining is made up of "scales" of fabric.

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Christopher

RenJunkie

That's the gentleman I was thinking of. Thanks for tracking him down!

Keegan Ingrassia wrote:Checked through the chapter on the 14th century for you. Found this fellow..

Christopher

RenJunkie

Konstantin speaks the truth. Go buy yourself at the very least a proper beveler: m And a ball-point stylus: m For punching holes, use a drill and drill them out, or go to your local Ace Hardware and get a hole punch of the size you want. You can get a swivel knife for your decorative cuts (or in thi...

RenJunkie

Guess I may just have to go experimenting with the look to see what resembles it the most.

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Christopher

RenJunkie

Do you have any pics, Adriano? I'd love to see how it turned out, and the inside as well, if possible.

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Christopher

RenJunkie

I think Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight has artwork of a European knight/man-at-arms from the 14th century wearing them.

I need to ILL that book again....

Christopher

RenJunkie

I do almost all my pattern making on the good side. Helps me avoid the crappy bits. Have you dyed it yet? And where are the marks showing? if it's just the perimeters, then Losthelm is right, it should go away when you bevel the edges (you are doing this, aren't you?). If it's in the middle, then ro...

RenJunkie

Thanks for continuing to be our connection.

You just can't get this stuff on the streets, you know

Christopher

RenJunkie

I'll give it a shot. When late fall hits. This apartment gets HOT when there's cooking happening, even with the central AC. I wanna be able to open the windows.

Maybe I should get a big grill....lol

Christopher

RenJunkie

Try aloe juice for the ibuprofen induced ulcers. I had a back injury once that had me on 3200 mg of ibuprofen a day. You can get it in the pharmacy section of Walmart, and I imagine most other pharmacies. I'm not gonna guarantee results, but it works for me. Also helps with the acid reflux. Tastes.....

RenJunkie

Where does one find images for this Trinity Psalter? I keep finding a lot of rather modern stuff...

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Christopher

RenJunkie

So about 1250, a solid color. Wasn't just an issue of not having arms to display, then?

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Christopher

RenJunkie

That third one is very interesting. When is it from, and are they all Spanish in origin? Is that maille just being depicted in a handful of ways, or are they delineating different armours?

It might be a surcote, or maybe a gardecorps? Early jupon? Just a tunic?

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Christopher

RenJunkie

Wet-bake hardened leather doesn't soften in the sun. If it gets really really soaked it might start to soften. But you just wet-bake it again. And if it's raining that hard, you shouldn't be doing any armoured stuff outside anyway. I'm about to start experimenting with a 1:5 Titebond 3 no-bake solut...

RenJunkie

Neat. Was there any particular reason dress like that can be pinned down (like a religious oath, or a sign of something), or is it just one of those "maybe he thought it looked cool" kinda things? I've found nearly half a dozen guys in the Mac with sleeves over their maille. It doesn't see...

RenJunkie

Nasal. That is an interesting interpretation...lol. You don't happen to have a verbatim translation of the Hebrew description do you? Well, I figured since this only appears once it was because of the specific Scriptural mention. But in other manuscripts (or brasses or statues) in Northern/Central/W...

RenJunkie

Is there any evidence that anyone from the HRE and points North or West wore these during the 13th century? I know Scripture (at least Protestant translations, I don't read Latin, so I can only assume the Vulgate does), mentions them specifically. Brass, in the King James. I dunno if them being show...

RenJunkie

On the MCS site there is an effigy of Baron Sir Robert de Roos (9th one down dated 1227):

http://www.themcs.org/armour/14th%20cen ... armour.htm

Is he wearing a sleeved surcote over his armour? Or is it some other type of garment?

Also, Heinrich von Hessen 1298 from Effigies and Brasses:

http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments ... /original/

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Christopher

RenJunkie

Bout when did guys in the HRE start wearing their arms on surcotes into battle? I know in the Maciejowski Bible it's pretty much all solid colors. But is this because that was the style at the time? Was it because it's all guys from Scripture who had no heraldry for the artist(s) to display? I don't...

RenJunkie

The exhibit? As in only one? My assumption was that they would have the bulk of survivng stuff and imagery from the Electorate at the museum in Dresden. And maybe other places small collections that may be open to the public, etc. To be honest, I dunno what all they have. I moved to Williamsburg bec...

RenJunkie

I've never had a problem getting Alchem stuff in a reasonable time frame. They've always communicated well with me as well.

Is this an "old" problem or a recent development?

Christopher

RenJunkie

So the kidney plates, do they overlap each other or no? And is his spine protection built into his under armour garments?

Thanks for commenting

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Christopher

RenJunkie

Dude, some of those clocks and bells....

Christopher

RenJunkie

Finding the extant images or even actual items of clothing and armour of 16th century Saxony. I've found a few things like the Svante Sture clothes, and a few of the links that get posted. I suppose maybe looking for info on guys that aren't important rich fellas is not the way to go. I know the res...

RenJunkie

Oh, it beats mine by one word...lol

Back to the armour...anyone else made one of these and has pics?

Christopher

RenJunkie

Mjaay, do you mind if I send you a totally off-topic PM?

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Christopher

RenJunkie

Willing to trade moving help for armour? lol. What's the new section of the country?

Those are good. They should make some mafiosi very very happy. Especially at 150 in Spring SS...wow.

Christopher

RenJunkie

Well, I figured "Has Anyone Made the 13th Century Armoured Surcote Described in the Amour Construction Essays Portion of the Archive" Was just too long of a title That looks spiff Pi. I like the cross-shape to the plate pattern. How well does it protect, or are you more dependent on armour...

RenJunkie

Just remember, that's the only depiction of greaves in the Maciejowski Bible (if there are others, PLEASE show me I'm wrong, I want to be wrong...lol), and those are on Goliath. Probably the only reason he has them is that they are mentioned specifically in Scripture. Even the fancy pants kings aren...

RenJunkie

In the Armour Construction Essays section of the Archive?

http://www.armourarchive.org/essays/armoured_surcoat/

If you have, do you have any pics of what it looks like, and any reports of how well it works?

Thanks!
Christopher

EDIT: Title changed for Alcy and Eff

Which Shoe Looks Less Wrong?

Goliath's Greaves in the Maciejowski Bible

Sir Robert De Ros (Roos)

Heraldry on Surcotes

Has Anyone Made the 13th Century Armoured Surcote Described