The Armour Archive

RenJunkie

So, why all the long shields in effigies? Mark of status? Just the style cause they look good on an effigy?

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

I've noticed that in the Mac Bible and in the William of Tyre images I've found that the crossbows have very long prods and they're wood, rather than metal colored. Were they really that much longer than say a metal prod? Or is this just artistic style? Or do we not know for sure?;) Thanks! Christop...

RenJunkie

I was going thru the images from the Mac Bible, and , even tho I've looked at the white one above a bunch, I just noticed the hooks holding the door of the tent open. How did this work? Is it maybe evidence for a spoke-wheel design for support, or is it something else? Can't say why, but I never not...

RenJunkie

Aha! Now I understand! This is big for me...lol

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

D'OH!

Well , I was hoping. Any idea of the year of sculpture?

Thanks,
Christopher

RenJunkie

Well, I have to use steel wool. Don't got a rusty chain shirt....

But if you'd like to donate some rusty maille to make some

Christopher

RenJunkie

Really? I woulda never thought the crow's footed guy lines were an indicator of sloped walls. Neat

Do we know if they used side poles ever?

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Vinegaroon is teh awesome, but it takes about 2 weeks to make it. That reminds me, I gotta get some going now that I'm moved.... If worst comes to absolute worst, acrylic paint. Don't expect it to hold up undamaged, but it will cover any errors you made. It'll get all stipply and kinda crack a bit, ...

RenJunkie

Is it my imagination, an optical illusion, or just the artist's style, but do some of those 13th century fellas at the MCS site have schynbalds on?

And are those knee cops on Hamo de Westin dated 1189?

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Clean. Very clean.

Killer job.

Christopher

RenJunkie

Yeah, but that's not really what I was getting at. They were just the only photos I had ready access to of extant tents...lol

So was the sloping cultural? Or was it for more practical reasons?

Do we have anything firmer than an educated guess? lol

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Aaron...does this mean you've welded pie pans? Wow. lol I don't think he made it. It says pre-owned. I know I for one wouldn't call something I made pre-owned unless I had used it for more than just a "Does it work?" period. And if he had one of those, it would be obvious to him that it do...

RenJunkie

Since I've spent much of my not moving or unpacking free time the past several months staring at tents and artwork showing tents, I've noticed looking thru pics of extant rounds, that not all of them seem to have been designed for slanted walls. At least not in all times. The Carols V tent for examp...

RenJunkie

I've thought of that, but a can of water sealer isn't too expensive. And I can get the latex-lined kind from Home Depot. I know they go oven in no time flat, but I'm not really in the tent during daylight hours. Not after Mr. Sol wakes me up, anyway. Mostly run in and run out. Especially at faire. I...

RenJunkie

**Whimper**

I love those.....

And that last pic.....with the background without any obvious modern-ness (in the displayed size, anyway)....yeah...that's one that made my day.

Thanks for sharing that!
Christopher

RenJunkie

That's a pretty fair first go at something.

Way better than my first...and that was in leather! lol

Good job.

Chrisatopher

RenJunkie

Can't do a wedge. I'm always banging into them. Really a worry when it's raining. I just don't fit into them unless they are over 10 feet tall. Ok, technically I fit, but not practically. Besides, my plan (at this point) is to make a wedge-shaped top to a wall tent out of a big canvas drop cloth. Th...

RenJunkie

Yup, it's for sleeping in. I actually tried that sorta tarp. I always thought it was cool. well, when I say that sort, I mean I took a piece of canvas and gave it a shot. it was full of fail. I'd try again, but my apartment manager would get upset if I started driving stakes into the parking lot . I...

RenJunkie

If I only had a heart.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iak9HxW6dHY

Christopher

RenJunkie

They could be, but they all look to have center poles. I'd interpret them as round. Buying enough canvas for a round would cost near as much as I can get a round for. I can get one for under $400, not counting poles ropes stakes and shipping. Certainly the difference wouldn't be enough to justify it...

RenJunkie

Well, I'm not buying a pavilion. That's the problem...lol. What I was hoping for was a tent I could make or improvise until I can get one. I have need of tentage...next month in fact. And September and October. Only the October one is SCA, and none are mundane. I have no reason to burn my limited mo...

RenJunkie

I need one gross of custom brass or bronze buttons. Little acorns. Simple buttons with no designs on them. Maybe 1/2" in diameter. I won't need them till after Pennsic, so there's no super rush. The wonderful lady putting them on the garment for me won't be back till after then. At that point, ...

RenJunkie

It makes me think of one of the guys from GWAR. Just needs more teeth

I love that Mac helm. Yeah, try to fix the asymmetry, but don't lose any sleep over it. Period helms are often a bit whopperjawled.

Good leg protection, too.

You're off to a bloody good start.

Christopher

RenJunkie

Cool. The only concern I have is what everyone is wearing. That looks later to me. I'd guess 15th century.

Do you have another example? I'll take late 12th century. Not like it would be hard to slip that impression a bit earlier.

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Like I said in my post on 13th century clothing: m I've had to temporarily abandon the 16th for an earlier century due to cost of clothing and goods. Now that I've done this, it's caused me tent problems. I found out last week I wasn't going to be able to buy the round pavilion I planned on (same fi...

RenJunkie

I feel faint....

Ohh, I want these!

Ohh, I don't have the money for them!

CHristopher

RenJunkie

But I would. So, I guess I just gotta wait for Stepping Through Time to show up at the library. And Shoes and pattens to show up at the other (Williamsburg only lets me ILL one at a time). If I gave you a pattern it would be based on a find that is good for 14th/15th but not be the same for 13th. Ho...

RenJunkie

Actually it was the pattern I was asking about

If it would be right for the 13th as well as the 14th. Or did the shoes change that much?

Thanks for linkies, Charlotte! I think my wife will be able to pattern these. Yay!

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Huh, I guess it does. Its just so broad, I didn't notice....

James, those shoes you taught in your classes, are those kosher for mid-13th?

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Thanks for the links! Ok, so pointy toed or flat toed either should work. Because I like Dru's 13thC model, but can't lay down that kind of money for the shoes. I think I'm gonna have to with Revival (one of them) or Bohemond due to cost. Tho, I am a bit hesitant to use Bohemond . I have a pair of h...

RenJunkie

Tropicals, gabardines, and flannels. Got it.

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

I love the dags on that Mac musician.

Ok, so I got a fairly good idea of the clothy bits. Now, the shoes. Does anyone make 13th century shoes, or am I gonna have to do it meslef?

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

So, no real confirmed difference for summer wear between two layers of medium linen and one med linen and one light wool, except for maybe the clamminess.

How light is the light weight wool of which summer wear is made?

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Here is something I am curious about. How can wool be such a great way to keep warm, yet also a great way to keep cool? Wouldn't it's radiating effect when paired with linen make it chilly in the winter? I know wool is fantastic in the cold, I'm not questioning that. I'm just wondering if anyone kno...

RenJunkie

Thanks, Karen! Guess I was typing when you posted that...lol. This should keep me busy for a few hours. After a cursory glance, it's looking to me like there is not a great deal of change until almost the turn of the 14th. Some change, but nothing too dramatic. I will say, apparently Spanish musicia...

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