The Armour Archive

RenJunkie

Greg, you look positively spiffing! Are those musicians wearing livery, or is that just fashionable for musicians in the HRE? Any other period images out there from the timeframe? Since my impression isn't the wealthy, images from 1255 on should be good, yes? I shall look into the Tailor's assistant...

RenJunkie

Well, due to financial....stuff....I need to go with an earlier, simpler period of clothing. Will be a while before I can afford to do my uber-spiff middle 16thC Saxon impression. Can't afford to buy those expensive clothes. My wife refuses to even attempt anything post 1300. So, I need to go with s...

RenJunkie

I have a hard copy of it. I can copy it and mail it, I suppose. Since it was free in the first place. I guess it would be legal...

Christopher

RenJunkie

OK, near any of the arm and leg armour patterns here on the archive will work. For joints, just use the patterns with the darts in them-the ones designed to be riveted. That will give you your curvature without a huge amount of trouble. Also try www.armorgeek.com. All his stuff is in leather. Includ...

RenJunkie

And apparently for cellists with good legs.

Must be expensive....can't figure out their site. Don't know the uber rich dude codes.

But they are niiiice....

Christopher

RenJunkie

Too.....amazing....for words....... Here's my current favorite setup of my kit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/kaos333/DSC_0205.jpg And here's it is with the other arms. Unfortunately I don't have any clear photos of me in the kit pictures above, yet. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/kao...

RenJunkie

I had never heard of the Cuzco school before. I didn't know there were any art forms like this that grew out of the new world in the 16th-17th centuries.

It's very beautiful. Methinks I must work on finding more of these...

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Pee is pretty nasty, but it's sterile. Probably the ammonia that makes it so unpleasant. Good bleaching agent. It was also used in brewing. Added nutrients, which is helpful with meads. The nitrogen was the big thing, IIRC. Nowadays, we add powdered nutrient. I dunno what it comes from. Maybe from u...

RenJunkie

No such thing (from a consumer's point of view) as too many armourers making good, historical kit. Good to see another who is turning their ever growing skills more towards the historical. But.... Its not that historical is not fun but the steel breast cups pitbull makes are a different type of Fun....

RenJunkie

Lol...

I appreciate it.

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Looking spiff, Greg. One day I'll actually understand the diagrams for the tied scabbards...lol. I suck at following knot diagrams.

4oz, really saturated with...neatsfoot? And how saturated? Still feels oily to the touch, or somewhat less than that?

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Doesn't sound too bad. I suppose I could always stitch a tongue keeper on there.

Which model were, they, incidentally?

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

A German crayfish? I know it's worng, but I have an image of a mighty peculiar scale armour. What exactly is it?

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Christopher

RenJunkie

Hmmm.....that could work....what weight? Never used elk hide before.

Thanks for the link!

Christopher

RenJunkie

So, I'd go and ask for a chrome tanned hide that looks like alum tawed? What do I say when they ask what alum tawed is?;)

If I go with hide, about what thickness am I looking at, and what type (garment, upholstery, etc)?

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Ah, ok, Thanks.

Christopher

RenJunkie

Not plates, Godric, just asking about maille.

That's what I was thinking, but since they didn't see fit to draw a cuffline, I figured I'd ask.

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

I may indeed have to ask him about that. Thanks. The 4 oz...it doesn't give you any trouble tying? Did you oil it yourself, or did you just buy bridle leather? The belt I saw at the Higgins wasn't quite so finished. I believe the Crusader it was shown on was a Templar, and it just had a pale look to...

RenJunkie

Yeah, it's a bit high. But I think these are the people I'd need to talk to if I ever need to get German cow-mouth boots. I think that heavy buffalo would sit just about right. Hopefully I'll need those one day... Anyone else have any shoemakers they swear by for 16thC shoes? Thanks! Christopher

RenJunkie

Bulk order? I don't think I need quite that many...lol I've never heard of them before. How much did they cost? And what shores are they on? I'd really prefer to buy something from the US. I know there's English makers (most of whom I'm sure are well over my price range...and no doubt worth it!), bu...

RenJunkie

Ok, I can see the wear about to blow out the eye holes for the tie on my current pair. I got them used, but I think they are Bohemond's Mary Rose model. Definitely looking for shoes first, boots later. Not so much looking for an identical pair. The leather is heinously thin. I've looked at Revival.u...

RenJunkie

Yeah, I want the extra brakes. Former truck driver....I want the brakes...lol I talked to two trailer places round here (gonna talk to RV ones tomorrow), they both said I won't need the cooler. Of course they also say I'll be fine if I don't drive in the mountains. I guess they mean if I only stay i...

RenJunkie

So, if we're after a more period finish, then just the oil, and/or wax, yes?

Scratches, etc for camp furniture I would imagine are quite period....

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

So as not to hijack, here is the other thing I wanna ask about from that thread.

All the guys are shown with fingers. Artistic license? Fingered maille gaunts? Just bare handed and not showing a cuffline?

Not world changing, I guess, but I'm curious....

Thanks!
Christopher

RenJunkie

Ok. Here's a question that's been bugging me a while. On belts like these: m (lifted from the 12thC Helm thread-didn't want to derail) What sort of leather is used for them? I'm sure veg can be, but I'd hate to tie that. On a Crusader at the Higgins years ago, there was a similar belt, 2 slits that ...

RenJunkie

Do those guys have a cross piece on the bottom of some of the nasals? Looks like a Thor's hammer sort of shape.

Thanks,
Christopher

RenJunkie

Hmmm, any idea why?

Thanks,
Christopher

RenJunkie

Ok, this is not as OT as it sounds. I have a Mercury Villager. I want to get a trailer for it it because the inside cargo capacity sucks. Even worse with the seats in. It's tough to carry stuff to an event, and I don't even own my own lodgings for SCA camping yet. So, what do I need to know that I d...

RenJunkie

Ambitious...

Good luck, and share many pics!

Christopher

RenJunkie

Woooowwwww......

ursulageorges wrote:No, but the V&A does have this pair of Cavalier-era stockings, with incredibly flashy horizontal stripes:

http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O107795/pair-of-hose/

Ursula Georges.

Christopher

RenJunkie

Spiiiiiiiiffffffffffffyyyyyyyyyy <drool>

Christopher

RenJunkie

Is okay.

I'm pretty sure people in period griped about heat too. Especially when Conquistadors started landing in the jungles and Mexican deserts.

Christopher

RenJunkie

Is it possible that the imagery is of Carolingian Franks? Their iron hats can be misinterpreted as kettles. Or thought of as the forebear of the kettle if you want to reach a bit.

Christopher

RenJunkie

I'm not trying to re-invent anything. Just on days where the heat is hammering me worse than normal, something a bit cooler. The clothes from some eras are just inherently less hot by design. Less layers or looser or whatnot.

I think you're focusing too much on my heat comment.....

Christopher

RenJunkie

I am, Flittie. I figured I'd ask here first. I get so many MR digests I forget to look at them sometimes...lol. Yeah, this one may have started as a longer cassock on a shorter guy, but on me ( I dunno, never met the guy it was meant for), it's about 5 or 6 inches past waist. So, it's not musketeer ...

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