The Armour Archive

Oswyn_de_Wulferton

I have a decent amount of leatherworking experience, am a group YC marshall for Meridies, and live about an hour north of you (Midtown Atl.). Let me know if I can be of help with making or crafting things. Willing to travel a bit, or host armouring nights at my apt. Will also be at Fool's War. Depen...

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I seriously hope your sizing is referring to head size, and not overall circumference. If so, depending on the price, I might be interested in one.

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Most of that is the "premium" top grade stuff. Not sure what you produce, but the expensive stuff you see is supposedly flawless.

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That is kinda high, I used to be able to 15/16 skirtings from them for about 70, but then they raised their prices Well, when you find someone willing to price their hides at that, without having a 25-hide minimum, please share. I don't think you are going to. Everyone's prices have gone up from wh...

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Are the finger gauntlets in the background going to Chef as well?

Did you just cut the tooling design, or is there a height difference in the leather from tooling?

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While still being very vague, have any of these people hypothetically conjectured about the percentage of authentic pieces in the collection? If this still falls under confidentiality, I completely understand.

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d-farrell2 wrote:
Niall Mor wrote:TThe kettle hats/chapel de fer were around by the early to mid 14th Century, look at the Mac bible for examples in art, can't cite extant pieces though.

I believe you meant early to mid 13th century, as the Maciejowski Bible is dated to 1240-1260. Look at Goliath for a great big example.

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The second picture Murdoch has lists it as being from 1380-1400. I know, I took the picture, and have the pic of the tag somewhere. Will post it later tonight.

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Define high? I am looking at the site, and see that the Select Import Saddle Skirting is 89 a hide. There shouldn't be any brands, and few insect bites or ragged edges. I think that is a Feb. Sale price though, but normally they run about 110-120 with club pricing (IIRC).

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Cleats? Uncovered modern footwear? Neither is a "safety" concern, simply "hashing" our medieval vibe.

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I would develop a personal relationship with a Tandy or Leather Factory. Talk them through exactly what you want, and sometimes they "accidentally" put in the wrong amount when ringing you up. Had that happen several times now, and just smile and nod (when they put in units instead of sq. ...

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Technically, there cannot be metal on a "striking surface". As long as it is not marked as an "edge" it is legal.

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I got 100% cotton batting at Jo-Anns, Michael's or some other craft place. You definately want pure cotton over any poly blend. My gambeson is three years old and going strong.

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So flipping it around, what evidence do you have for wearing the deer/pig skin under maille? Not being snide, generally interested. Was this based on extant research, or simply interpretive trial archeology?

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Gotcha. What I was referring to seems to be an earlier style (possibly either converting Normans, or referencing that style when these started to become popular).

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PM Sent.

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Looks good. The only suggestion I would make (and I can't tell from the photo) would be to put a kind of crease down the center of the dome (akin to a Norman helm). Helps give it some definition.

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I would think a saddle would offer a decent amount of protection...

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Looks real nice. For the next one, you might want to put just a bit mroe fo a downward curve to the brim. Also, I would say try to get some of the cool fluting on the band (aka. Mac Bible). Overall looks great.

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Some of the plates in the Mac Bible show fingered maille gauntlets.

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No. See here.

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Sean, if you can find the old "How to make the Maciejowski Chopper" tutorial, their sword is constructed the same way. Split the rattan, block out the inside for support, and then tape the hell out of it.

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When working on the poles for our Norman, we found that using 1 5/8" diam. closet rods worked well, after sanding the ends to fit into 1 1/2" aluminum conduit. The "shoulder" of the unshaved section helped to keep the join where it belonged.

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On an opposing note, would the saddles that you and Chef are mentioning be used during this era? Would de Joinville have recognized these as being important? I ask this becuase the saddle may have become more important as the armour protected better, thus leading to other ways of incorporating force...

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Would love pics. druidfire217<at>gmail<dot>com

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Most of what I have seen after this thread ended has been a straight triangle. There is a bit of more meat on some, but most are either triangular, or sloping the entire way down.

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Under the glossary for SCA general:

Laminated rattan: Two pieces of rattan, each being at least 1Â¼ inch (31.8mm) in diameter, attached to one another with a short overlap by tape or other method of binding. [b]Maximum length of the overlap shall be 18â€

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Uh, I believe you just defined "Laminated Construction". As the thing that is expressly banned in the rules. Now taking a normal piece of rattan, splitting and reinforcing the center, and then taping seems to be allowed. Just no Rattan on Rattan action.

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Fixed the URL for the tag. Basically just says 1500 Tourney helm.

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Sorry, I should have been more specific. I am trying to find effigies, illuminations, etc. with both arm and legs having splinted leather protection. Preferably for almost all of the coverage as opposed to plate. Kilkenny, I was looking at the vambrace/rebrace and shynbald. I wasnt necessarily looki...

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Here it is. Front and side photo, along with the tag near it. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2410/2266706211_fe3681e051.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2116/2267495966_fa471c3c7c.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2336/2267496274_2429bec931.jpg This is in the Bavarian National Museum in Munich. L...

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Or you could use what I and a couple of others use. Sheepskin (courtesy of IKEA). Shave to your relative calibration (full hair will have quite a bit of numbness). I have taken a couple of really stout shots, and haven't been bothered by it. Doesnt get sweaty or anything. Essentially wool liner, wit...

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Honestly, we dont know. Obviously they had something, but AFAIK, we dont know what made it "high-grade".

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I looked at those before posting the initial question. It seems like almost none of them look like they have splinted defenses, but more solid plate defenses. Am I missing something?

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So do you buy the taping fork, or is it something you made?