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- Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:50 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Jousting in the USA
- Replies: 292
- Views: 7572
Re: richard
Hey Richard, You are right on in your comments. I thought the same thing and was very interested in what Jeff H was planing in terms of the Euro style jousting. Then I got to page 6 of this thread and he and Gwen started their little bash fest. It is to bad really I just hope some good can come of ...
- Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:26 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Gatecrasher fight
- Replies: 14
- Views: 558
- Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:17 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
Just to be clear, my suggestion to ban left-handed fighters was an attempt to humorously illustrate how a well-intended SEM might act to "fix" a perceived problem (excessive instances of groin shots) through unilateral legislation. I am not actually advocating this (so long as everyone understands ...
- Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:56 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Jousting in the USA
- Replies: 292
- Views: 7572
Hmmm. Well, I hope Jeffrey H & Jeff S can work this out. A friendly competition sounded like a better idea, fun for all and a chance for a cool beer afterwards. They probably have more in common, in a good way, then either realizes. In the meantime, the MSR jousting at the Sands Point Medieval Fair ...
- Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:09 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
Not at all. As SEM, I would simply outlaw all left-handed fighting, since it both introduces a disproportionate risk to the referenced injury, and it is unsupportable as an historic practice ... AoC Actually I had thought for many years that we absolutely should ban left handed fighting as an ahist...
- Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:59 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Duke Logan Fight
- Replies: 205
- Views: 7862
i dont know its a good question. what does it have to do with this thread though? curiously logan Can an opponent who is incapacitated by pain be considered "helpless"? Just askin' (Edited because the first version sounded too judgemental. I wanted to post a general question, not comment on this vi...
- Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:24 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Combat archery in the second woods battle at Pennsic 35
- Replies: 257
- Views: 3608
why is this a mystery? people that do not wish to embrace our ideals need to stay off of our field. go find their own field -SNIP- regards logan Okay wait a minute. Your grace, I have the greatest respect for you personally, and I am usually in total agreement with the things you say, but not here....
- Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:12 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
Richard -- I'm familiar with your references. What they lack are the primary source citations supporting these statements. With the exception of one embellished statue, there is precious little to indicate leather was used as supplemental armor in the age of mail. By contrast, the vast majority of ...
- Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:03 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Duke Logan Fight
- Replies: 205
- Views: 7862
This is one of those videos that, I am afraid to say, makes the UK re-enactment scene cast a negative view on the SCA. I say this as someone that would love to be at raglan castle as we speak, if I could afford to be there. Why? On a scene dominated by touch combat it makes the SCA look violent. Wh...
- Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:56 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: The Churburg Armoury - NEW BOOK!
- Replies: 262
- Views: 12709
- Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:12 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Gatecrasher fight
- Replies: 14
- Views: 558
- Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:07 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Duke Logan Fight
- Replies: 205
- Views: 7862
I must be missing something. Logan hit both fighters with lots of blows, the opponents eventually took the ones that they felt were good and died. When Logan sent one to his knees, it was very unwise of that legged opponent to spin around, drop his guard and then go to the ground without taking a pr...
- Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:12 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
Alfred, Blair's European Armour is the other book I thought supported leather plate defenses for the arms earlier in the chivalric era where maille was still in heavy use. I skimmed it this morning, the section describing the evolution of armour into plate specifically states leather was used for ar...
- Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:57 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Combat archery in the second woods battle at Pennsic 35
- Replies: 257
- Views: 3608
... a) As you keep pointing out, we are doing a modern sport. In that modern sport, it is accepted that one shot upside the head with a single sword will kill you. It is also accepted that one shot in the chest with a spear will kill you. Likewise, one shot in the chest with a sufficiently forcey a...
- Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:05 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Jousting in the USA
- Replies: 292
- Views: 7572
Oh, and I have to admit I love Knight Riders- maybe because I was in the SCA in the East Kingdom when it was made and know the back story? Gwen Funny how the past comes back in new ways. Back then the EK did not have jousting or really even much equestrian activity in a formal way. It was shortly b...
- Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:05 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
Ah. AAAOTMK page 62 has the one I was thinking of "A relief from the tomb of Gugliemo Beradi, c1289... Florence...Note the leaborately decorated leg defenses, probably of cuir boulli, strapped on over the mail chauses". So it is basically leather cuisse, poleyn and greave (or schynbald?) over mail. ...
- Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:44 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: The BEST part of the new SCA combat rules!!
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1170
I don't agree that there are not any cheaters. I do agree it is hard to prove and that they are a small minority. More common is the person that honest to God really did not feel the full force of a blow for whatever reason, they did not cheat, the shot simply did not register to them as 'good' for ...
- Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:38 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: The BEST part of the new SCA combat rules!!
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1170
- Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:33 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
Well I would hope you ... at least had maille over your elbow and maybe some leather too, like the SCA target armour which is essentially 11th to early 12th century. Full mail sleeves, actually: m There is no evidence of leather arm armor (or leather armor of any sort) -- either archeological, icon...
- Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:17 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Keeping the armor non-rusty?
- Replies: 41
- Views: 987
- Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:12 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
richard, you cant see my elbow armour so i wont look any more knightly with junk on my already protected sheild arm. but then last night!!! watching some nhb mma training video last night and a bell went off. no it wasnt the "crap my beer is empty bell" nor was it the "wow that joint lock kicks ass...
- Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:01 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
I personally love the rule on elbow protection on both arms, not just the sword arm. To me it makes perfect sense if nothing else from an appearance and historical accuracy perspective... How perfectly late-period prejudiced of you, brother ! Of course, for us mail-era knights (you know, the time w...
- Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:48 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Jousting in the USA
- Replies: 292
- Views: 7572
Any and every group can use help in the areas I spoke of. Perhaps I'm mistreading the intent, but the only people who should be out on the field should be those who are horse saavy enough not to "get trampled", regardless of their age. There's plenty of things for people to do behind the scenes if ...
- Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:56 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Jousting in the USA
- Replies: 292
- Views: 7572
This seems a good time to remind everyone that jousting IS NOT only about the guy on the horse with the lance. As a matter of fact, it takes a high ratio of people on the ground to make the guy on the horse possible. There is a crying, no, a screaming need for all sorts of riding and non-riding sup...
- Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:52 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
with all due respect adam the suggestion that the rules are done and they simply wont be changed until the next revision (another 6 years?) is annoying. simply put you guys made a mistake. a rule was changed for no reason except that some of the guys allowed commentary have some regional issues wit...
- Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:22 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Jousting in the USA
- Replies: 292
- Views: 7572
For those interested in jousting and living in the New York, Long island area, there is the MSR Horse project, Of which I have been working/jousting with the past 5 years. September 9 & 10 and 16 & 17 we will be jousting at the Sands Point Medieval Faire. We are doing a "show" for the public but it...
- Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:35 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Mantova
- Replies: 10
- Views: 291
- Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:45 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Combat archery in the second woods battle at Pennsic 35
- Replies: 257
- Views: 3608
The combat archery hatred confuses me a little. We are perfectly willing to pretend that our knights are riding imaginary horses; however if someone shoots you, off of that imaginary horse that's bad taste. I doubt combat archery will ever go away. Perhaps devising ways of staying alive with archer...
- Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:40 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
I will never, ever, understand what the big deal is about wearing armour on both arms. Knights in history did it. So we should do it. It makes sense, if nothing else from a historical appearance point of view. And if everyone does it, no one is losing an advantage by being a teeny, tiny bit more enc...
- Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:23 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Interested in the Company of Saint Michael?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 455
- Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:20 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
I fought once upon a time without a hard elbow behind my heater. I had the distinct displeasure of taking a hard enough shot on the elbow to both bruise and chip the bone. I didn't fight again four weeks. I've also seen people forget to put their hard elbow on again when the switched away from thei...
- Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:20 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Combat archery in the second woods battle at Pennsic 35
- Replies: 257
- Views: 3608
- Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:18 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Combat archery in the second woods battle at Pennsic 35
- Replies: 257
- Views: 3608
I can only speak to Ansteorra, and I believe that all the Gulf War Kingdoms are the same, the only legal targets are the exact same as the rest of the Heavy Fighters. If you get shot in a non target area then it doesn't count, simple as that...no good, don't count it Correct. I don't think it curre...
- Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:06 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] New Society Combat Rules
- Replies: 339
- Views: 7759
I'm another "Early Period" type; and while great strides have been made in appearance in the past few years, if one gets rid of everyone who does not fall into the definition of "looking like a knight" the SCA will be down to about 10%. >While I disagree about the 10% part, why do you think an early...
- Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:55 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Combat archery in the second woods battle at Pennsic 35
- Replies: 257
- Views: 3608
Damn right it's biased. I see them having fun. I'd like for them to keep doing that. Just a side point for you guys spewing anti CA venom. I know about 7 heavy fighters that got their start with CA. Their reason is that "shooting is fun, fighting is awesome." My girlfriend for examply started CA an...
