The Armour Archive

Tom B.

Nicely done! As a possible follow up project you guys could build a similarly scaled onager and compare performance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onager_%28siege_weapon%29 Back in the early 90's I built one for a siege weapon competition. It was scaled to just fit in the bed of my Dakota with the to...

Tom B.

As far as I know only other bar, like the one I posted above, across the face of a sallet is on the Churburg CHS62 sallet.
Anyone know of others?

Goll 1690

Tom B.

Not unknown to me but now with much better photos. The bar across the face of the sallet displayed as part of A62 Goll 1697 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WY3dQ7IWIKY/VIXS7VCP9bI/AAAAAAABEs4/E3ydafmSX0E/w800-h533-no/ref_arm_1697_000.jpeg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YJyEY1nQ7uY/VIXSQZF7drI...

Tom B.

Any comments on my above post about lining straps?

Tom B.

Also the hems on most if not all of these are just wrong, and none have the usual decoration on the hems either. Well... I thought that went without saying. :wink: Goll #3402 and #4779 bottom both look as though someone loved their bead roller and thought that a line of rivets like those on a Great...

Tom B.

What about greaves with flutes? I know of a few artistic depictions of fluted greaves but I don't know of any 100% trust worthy extant example. Here are the fluted greave I have found from Goll: Ref_arm_2335 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-KkIJqnX_5Ns/VGtzaCBs8dI/AAAAAAAAqU8/VvWoIqdgBok/w247-h800...

Tom B.

Thanks, Tom! It's clear that all the Vic'y stuff had the Siegmaringen backplate as their inspiration, some much better than others. 3321 ain't bad at all. The 4779 doesn't seem to have the holes for the missing border around the neck gusset the the Siegmaringen backplate does, which impacts its tru...

Tom B.

Mac, check out Roel Renmans Flickr. There are a few different angles there if you browse around. Thanks! Like I said... the vambraces are currently on dead backward.... and also the elbows are sort of.... sideways-ish... and probably swapped left for right as well. I wish the good folks in Vienna w...

Tom B.

I think you probably already have the answer I understand why it's not an effective way to do but for those who wanted to anyway, why are there hardly any examples of such a thing? If you agree this would not be an effective way to do it why would you expect to find examples. I am not sure what your...

Tom B.

Mac wrote:They remind me of the tassets that were on that blackened Gothic composite that the Met used to display. It's in Stone, but I can't seem to find an online pic to link to.

Mac

Met 29.150.8

Goll 3831
Goll 3841

Tom B.

Biau-douz de la Mere wrote:This thread is JAM UP! the armored cannoneer? what year is that MS resourced from? what MS is it? rondeled visor bascinet inquiring minds want to know (please)

Take a look Here:
Kriegstechnik. Upper Rhine, Deutschland, ca 1420-1440. Zentralbibliothek Zürich, Ms. Rh. hist. 33b, Fol. 81v

Tom B.

The pauldrons seem like the most obvious no-no's, but I expect that a careful inspection of the pieces including interiors would find more parts that we don't like. I can't prove it from the small picture. The met has a lot of stuff that is pretty mixed up. And some very nice pieces. Dean had fun. ...

Tom B.

Andrew, I have the gravest suspicious about the pouldrons. They look "nice" in that way the some reenactor stuff sometimes looks "nice", or the way Pre-Raphaelite art looks "nice". They are "nice" in a Violet le Duc sort of way. That is to say they pander to modern esthetics and modern interpretati...

Tom B.

Unfortunately, so am I -- I'll have to go dig into my file cabinet for old archaeological articles with the grave goods. Meantime, you can see a reconstruction here -- it's not, in my opinion, correct to the grave goods - should have more rods longitudinally, and what I saw doesn't support the "wra...

Tom B.

I'm not at all sure what to make of this object in the Met's collection. ref_arm_3150 It's weird, but that does not necessarily mean it's bogus. The pairs of stitching holes at the top give it a sort of verisimilitude. Likewise, the workmanship is good and the lines are bold and graceful. It might ...

Tom B.

Trial by Battle in France and England is a Doctoral thesis submitted by Ariella Elema to the University of Toronto. Direct link to PDF Trial by battle was a medieval European form of legal proof in which difficult lawsuits were decided by a single combat between two duellists before a judge. This d...

Tom B.

Looks like I have finally found more info on this one, Thanks to my Facebook Friend Frederik Kirch :D Christ Carrying the Cross of St. Martin in Lorch am Rhein http://www.smb-digital.de/eMuseumPlus?service=DynamicAsset&sp=SU5mxm4Yx%2FVbg9LVP7MZLDqo6z5lhONBxez%2FYx5EhVSCZjU0bcvvsnPxkoLiFJnF9QzRY98OZw...

Tom B.

Here is some additional wisdom from Jeff Wasson... What makes a pair of greaves good? Here's a drawing that better describes what I am talking about. Once again, tight around the top like a cone gripping the calf so it can't slide down into the ankle. Once it is past the thickest part of the leg it ...

Tom B.

Starting with "is the back snug enough"... There is some variability in this, and I don't think that we all agree on the exact fit, but there was a nice thread that showed some drawings of where it needs to fit and where it doesn't. I think the sketches are in Mac's Dusting off the Cobwebs thread p...

Tom B.

Mac wrote:That's a good one for back defense. I am not sure if we are seeing fabric covered armor or bare plates on a foundation, though.

Mac

I too think it is probably exposed plates with a fabric foundation but it is a good view of a back construction.

Tom B.

Arm armour here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipila ... 145061815/

Tom B.

Take a look at the this image I just found at the Armour in Art page:

http://armourinart.com/19/23/

Item: Torun Retable
From: Pelplin, Poland
Dating: 1390

Click on image to open a larger version

Tom B.

What about the greaves in this one?

http://armourinart.com/17/21/

Tom B.

Ah, my bad. I was on my phone reading trough the thread again and it seems I just had some issues loading the pictures. Great, now I can start saving the thread to my computer! Your posted has prompted me to get back to updating my saves of the pics and posts myself. I am pretty sure that Mac has a...

Tom B.

Xtracted wrote:The early pictures in this thread are gone, does anyone have them? I was going to save this thread to a pdf but unfortunately many pictures are missing..

Which pics seem to be missing for you?
I just flipped through a bunch of the early pages and all of the pics loaded for me.

Tom B.

There also is some good stuff in
Soldiers' Lives through History - Middle Ages by Rogers, Clifford J.

Tom B.

Domingo wrote:Try Unconqured Knight, The Deeds of Don Pero Nino, Count of Buelna. It is a first person singular account as written by his standard bearer Gutierre Diaz de Gamez 1431-1449

Here you go:
PDF of the translation by Joan Evans

Tom B.

Thanks for the pic James.
Yours were the only photos I found and I did not want to post them without your approval.

Tom B.

ManOnFire68 wrote:Really wish I had known that before placing my order but whatever.

I posted the same info a few posts above, on Saturday.

Tom B.

The only advantage to buying directly from the Wallace book store is the possibility of getting the book signed.

You can get the same book and thumb drive for less than half the price.
This is the same book new not used.

Bookfinder
ABE Books

Tom B.

The first gauntlet I saw like that was on a tonlet armour in Madrid, made for Philip II's 'Knotwork' garniture by Desiderius Helmschmid in 1545. Dr. Mike Lacy and I irreverently christened it the 'Nose Picker' garniture. I believe I posted a picture of the gauntlet on the Arms and Armour Forum (the...

Tom B.

Mac, My guess as well was that someone had some pieces of the original gauntlets and did their best to assemble a mostly complete one. Keegan, You are right on with your guess. The separate pinky seems very odd. I can imagine having the index finger separate but not the pinky. Maybe the knuckle plat...

Tom B.

I was just flipping back through the photos from the THoog album and saw this gauntlet.
What is going on here?

Click on the photo to go to a higher resolution image

Tom B.

Also I would be grateful for any and all photos you could take of this piece. If possible multiple angles, close up details, shots from across the room zoomed in, etc. And a shot showing the complete museum card. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2297/2054987144_9512e8d1cd_z.jpg?zz=1 I am sending you a...

Tom B.

Here are some online albums for you to preview, this can help you pick out the stuff you really want to make sure to find. Thoog's Flickr page Armour: Philadelphia Museum of Art James B. has 3 sets of pics Philly 2003 Philly 2004 Philly 2009 - not armour but other medieval items Official video from ...

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