The Armour Archive

Tom B.

What about this bevor? I wonder if the outer part is an addition. Seems odd with the slot instead of a pivot. The roll on the top of the inner part makes it seem like originally it did not have anything over it. It also looks like the lames at the bottom don't match up to the inner chin piece. The u...

Tom B.

I'm pretty sure it's not the Toilette Kolbenturnier , because the weapons are not tied to the breastplates. :lol: The guy with the bladder crest is a hoot! I guess they thought this tourney form was ludicrous as well, and decorated themselves accordingly. It's like the 15th C version of pool noodle...

Tom B.

Is this the Korbgestech ?... or the Saugglockerennen ?, or what? Mac :lol: Nicely done Seriously though which of the 57 different flavors of German joust is this? The equipment is quite unusual especially the basket weave helms. A guy on the previous page has a maybe a bladder As a crest and charge...

Tom B.

I came home, searched Tornements by Barber & Barker, Then the Rene book and even debated pulling down a few others... But I think Tom found what I was remembering. I remember him facing right and not left which is why I never trust my memory unless I can document it later. Good luck! Sean I just co...

Tom B.

What was your AP's decision on gilding the besagues?
If it is a yes, then I think they would look better smooth.

Tom B.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gXWsP3deEOf1MqvePUcvPFmg5lGH2r9CEHoYam7m4NP0un6LMaH0buT65UN4ZuHPri0DQH_Gw-y4-GMSqhWiC-KXiwcW6NsvTb7d5zYHERSoi5NIMAi4CLWGf4o5SENirEVQjPAW39pVmif_2A-HG1k225uKN96UzhmTCxzX_ooRI8Fod6KjFzHPeR5XhD39XjzyPcJjtISCXnJiV8rLP6XBOak-AEeUxWEU5UTPKLI3zBkrmVAo9_PB94xbQk4T2LyfKTh0R...

Tom B.

I don't have the book to hand but I think that the image you want is on page 71. Don't ask me how I remember that but on occasion can't remember my ATM pin. :oops: I think it was in this book... https://www.amazon.com/Tournaments-Jousts-Chivalry-Pageants-Middle/dp/1555844006/ref=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UT...

Tom B.

Hey Mac that video reminded me that some of the water powered trip hammer videos had footage of grinding. I have not had a chance to look back through them yet, but here is a YouTube playlist I made a few years ago with 18 videos. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2tcR41Bd4FGIRWEMy2zYIwBrGtXDag...

Tom B.

I have been pretty busy lately :wink: Here are some of the items I have completed in the last few months. All are made from 6mm mild steel pin riveted rings. Mostly round rings but some parts from flat rings. Click on the images to go to larger versions posted on Facebook. https://scontent.xx.fbcdn....

Tom B.

The other oddity is that he seems to have a little square white "plaster" covering some small wound on his leg. Has anyone else here ever seen a 15th C Band-aid? Mac Burial of Christ from a passover altar, late 15th / early 16th century, former Baden / CH, today in the museum in Dijon (Burgundy, F)...

Tom B.

Thanks Tom and Mark. My current camera is a Panasonic Lumix DMC-SZ10 . It seems to have trouble in low light without the flash, but maybe there are settings which can reduce that? Focusing on objects in low light closeup can also be a problem. One thing that can be helpful is a good monopod. Often ...

Tom B.

I guess there is always time to gamble.... Casting lots for Christ's clothes And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots. They part my garments a...

Tom B.

BNF Latin 757 Missale et horae ad usum Fratrum Minorum, Folio 327v

Tom B.

Check out the guys at the bottom here:

BNF Latin 757 Missale et horae ad usum Fratrum Minorum, Folio 79

Tom B.

Hey guys I would be the young fool looking to replicate these for a customer. My big question right now is if these cuisses move at all how is the movement possible if they have non articulated wrap plates? John's Sketch: Click to open larger image https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/q81/p526x29...

Tom B.

As Sean pointed out BNF Latin 757 Missale et horae ad usum Fratrum Minorum also has legs of this design depicted.

Look at this guy, only his left leg seems to be segmented

Tom B.

A couple of images from BNF Nouvelle acquisition française 5243 Guiron le Courtois Click on images to load higher resolution versions Are these fully enclosed cuisses in the first image? http://manuscriptminiatures.com/media/cache/manuscriptminiatures.com/original/124-78_gallery.jpg http://manuscrip...

Tom B.

Some other images from BNF Français 343 Queste del Saint Graal / Tristan de Léonois: click on images to open larger versions Look at this guy, legs go up high and there may be a bit of a curve in his upper cuisse (from articulation?). https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YapuGldc_gs/Vxp92nZMc9I/AAAAAAAASEw/F-...

Tom B.

Over on Facebook John Meyer started a thread asking about this image showing what look to be segment cuisses and solid wrap plates. Would these segments have slight articulation? I could see a bit of movement being possible if the hinges to the solid wrap plates were designed and located correctly. ...

Tom B.

I will second the recommendation of dpreview

A macro mode is also a good idea for those close up detail shots

Tom B.

A few comments about using a gas oven for tempering. 1. How accurate is the temperature setting? 2. How tightly is the temp controlled? 3. Are there any hot/cold spots? #1 is definitely worth checking out with a trusted oven thermometer or thermocouple. #2 & #3 probably are not too big of a deal if ...

Tom B.

Back on Pages 38-40 of this thread Mac went into detail about some of his abrasives their use and setup. It would be a good time for those following along to go back a reread these :wink: Truing up edges on grinding disks was also covered earlier on page 12 in this post: set up for truing wheels Her...

Tom B.

Is that in fact a touch mark that we are seeing? I'm not at all confident of that. The image has been blown up enough the it's starting to get all pixilated and weird. Mac I think Mac is correct, in my opinion this is not a touch mark (maker's mark). Some better images: (Click on first image to ope...

Tom B.

Time for my semi-annual

Andrea's unparalleled collection of images is now at over 22k.
It is by far the best resource of its type and it pays to revisit.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrea_carloni/albums

Tom B.

The first grinding operation differs from all subsequent processes in an important way. It must remove the hammer marks and other small irregularities from the surface. It is a leveling process. This requires an unyielding presentation of the abrasive that will take off the high spots without flowi...

Tom B.

Mac beat me to it

Technically refered to as Fantasy

Tom B.

Here are the seller's other ebay listings

http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=armor4 ... efine=true

He seems to have 2 listings for 10th cenrury helmets, both have the same photos.
One is $1000 more than the other.

Tom B.

Quite obviously has been mucked around with extensively.
That being said the majority of the main upper plate looks pretty nice, minus the really bad shoulder strap add ons.
Definitely everything below the waist plate is not original or a working life replacement either.

Tom B.

EXCEPTIONALLY RARE GERMAN GOTHIC BACKPLATE CIRCA 1450-1500 EX MUSEUM: For the discriminating collector of Arms and Armor. The center piece of any Arms and Armor collection. Real Gothic armor seldom becomes available. This exceptional piece has a working life culet replacement and a working life rep...

Tom B.

Mac wrote: Does anyone know of another example? The Helmschmied armors in Vienna have short vambraces, but I don't have any pics that show the fastenings.

Mac

A60 has buckles

Mac I have sent you a couple of emails that may help you in this search if it is not too late.

Tom B.

Thanks guys.

Tom B.

Not sure if any of my images are any better but here is the Google folder where I put the St Wolfgang images I have: St Wolfgang Altar Images I am not sure but loading these into an image editor and adjusting things a bit might help to clarify things a bit. Here are some zoomed in shots from these i...

Tom B.

The sharp corners created by the file work cause stress concentrations this would make it too risky to do before heat treating. Remember how he kept the nice radius at the knee to wing transition until after heat treatment? https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VCj7gzW89Tg/VlyXrbcv48I/AAAAAAAAHv0/ghsCH...

Tom B.

Not to detract from the conversation, but has anyone else noticed the large besagew on the back of the cuirass worn by the fellow in the first image Tom posted? There are lots of interesting details on these guys as well as some of the guys on the other plates. Wikenauer: Solothurner_Fechtbuch_(Cod...

Tom B.

I'm going to post a pic which includes another front opening cuirasse. This one was painted by Nuno Gonçalves http://www.artcyclopedia.org/art/nuno-goncalves-vincent.jpg Mac Some more detailed zoomed in images: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L3tdXHFl5Rhlf9BGIC6klvToZl_jUA3V-J4J0eA4HHG9sz62BRu9g...

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