The Armour Archive

Tom B.

Mac, I recall a discussion (maybe from one of Dave's threads, I will try to look it up later) about shoulder strap attachment to backplates. I posted pics from the KHM and Thun Sketchbook that seemed to indicate the buckles (one those examples) were probably were on short straps attached a few inch...

Tom B.

No translation error https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nj2X_wnnZlQ/VU0C1LZXHlI/AAAAAAACET8/Ofo1Uwko8dU/s800/Screen%2520Shot%25202015-05-08%2520at%25202.26.05%2520PM.png He also references this painting Naval Battle at Punta di San Salvatore, scene from Stories of Alexander III, 1407-1408, by Spinel...

Tom B.

Mac, I recall a discussion (maybe from one of Dave's threads, I will try to look it up later) about shoulder strap attachment to backplates. I posted pics from the KHM and Thun Sketchbook that seemed to indicate the buckles (one those examples) were probably were on short straps attached a few inche...

Tom B.

Mac Just for reference, here is what you wrote in June 2009 in Jiri's brass caps on the rivets thread Here is the short version of the procedure I use to make brass capped rivets. There are probably as many ways to do this as there are armorers, but this will give you a start upon which you can expe...

Tom B.

Tom, The solder forms a thin layer between the head of the rivet and the inside of the very point of the cones. If you filled the cones entirely with solder, they would be strong, but heavy. I'll see if I can make one up this evening and cut in in half for a photo. The small brass caps are a differ...

Tom B.

I am not very familiar with soldering parts together, so I wonder about these images. Where did the solder go under the corroded through caps? They all seem hollow, not filled with solder. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Xb2s4x4Jfag/VUkEzdJ_W5I/AAAAAAACERs/Jgoc_nJ1CyM/s800/1727%2520left%2520side%...

Tom B.

Rob, It's true. My smoking gun example only proves that they soldered bras caps onto iron shanks. It does not prove that they soldered iron caps onto iron shanks. Jiri K has demonstrated that you can make fluted, dome headed rivets all in one, but there are two thing that make me think the soldered...

Tom B.

Barbanegra wrote:This here is an exellent topic on an exellent forum for all things cutlery http://www.bladesmithsforum.com/index.p ... opic=15010

That is the go to thread for sword grips.
I have pointed people there for years, great stuff.
I probably should archive it just to make sure I don't ever lose it.

Tom B.

Icepocca wrote:So then how exactly do you get an elbow that never gaps?

Are you also following the discussion in these two other current threads?
Jeremy's harness build (page 3 has arm discussion)
Designing a knee, trying to get it right

Tom B.

Has this rivet lost its head? or is is a replacement? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/84/95/4e/84954e1132bfd241aebec99a6f7e806e.jpg A look inside the helmet is inconclusive. I think I see a projecting rivet shank, but it might be wishful thinking. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/orig...

Tom B.

Here's another one that I would like to examine. It looks like the second rivet back from the visor has lost its cap. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9f/42/61/9f4261cc7efe2250a9b5f97e29f13b40.jpg Mac Added a few more photos to my Sallet Research Picasa Album Missing Cap Side and top views...

Tom B.

Yes. It's one of your RA pics., the 3/4 right back view of IV.427 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_RrL64zl5fvkFFsWHUH6wXGQSdyGnbHT5CJ9tSD-AdklmysE1RocHPRhOSGtrEm4-ys_-g=w1389-h641 Strangely enough, the link works OK for me. Computers are a strange sort of magic. I have tried to pin it here https:...

Tom B.

Jiri Klepac has made some fancy rivets from what looks like a single piece. Maybe he has some thoughts? http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=89885 Dang! So he has! Good on him, and thank you for pointing this out, GP! Mac I know Jiri has handled Goll 4592, I wonder if he gaine...

Tom B.

Thanks, Tom! This image seems to be too big to post here https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_RrL64zl5fvkFFsWHUH6wXGQSdyGnbHT5CJ9tSD-AdklmysE1RocHPRhOSGtrEm4-ys_-g=w1389-h641 That rivet up near the visor would be interesting to see up close as well. I think what we can see there is a rivet which has ...

Tom B.

There is a possibility that something like the Portable Antiquities Scheme Database would have some rivets or caps that have become detached.
It is worth a look.

What other databased for objects like this exist, besides the Portable Antiquities Scheme?

Tom B.

Mac, I don't have time to dig up the links (real work to do :cry: ) but here are some Goll #s to look at 1894 1885 1858 1850 1808 1761 1720 1718 1735 2094 1840 4592 Thank you, Tom! I will peruse those and report back. Mac Also this from page 94 Goll He seems to think they are not soldered caps. :? ...

Tom B.

Mac,

I don't have time to dig up the links (real work to do

)
but here are some Goll #s to look at

1894
1885
1858
1850
1808
1761
1720
1718
1735
2094
1840
4592

Tom B.

Here is a pic I took in Leeds. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y6oC8vp1tbY/VUjBf4nkL_I/AAAAAAACEOs/rFYE6P-BfhE/s800/IMG_1950.JPG Link to downloadable full sized photo Link to all Leeds Photos Tom, Do you have any more details like that? There seems to be more variation than I would expect. That ...

Tom B.

Here is a pic I took in Leeds.

Link to downloadable full sized photo
Link to all Leeds Photos

Tom B.

Lorccan wrote:Mac, why wouldn't you just cast the rivets?

Because that is not what they did.

Tom B.

James: in the A62 do you mean to say the leathers prevent the lames from hyper-flexing? The leathers appear to be there to prevent them from gapping, unless they are there to lessen wear on one's hose (?). I had the distinct impression they were there to prevent gapping, however, but would like to ...

Tom B.

Hello, Tom, I have long owed everyone my paper on A 62, but there remains the business of putting the finishing touches on it and actually finding a place to publish it. Look at the knees of A 60 and A 62, and you will note a rivet right in the middle of the medial ridge. All the lames of the poley...

Tom B.

I don't see it in any of the Athens photos I can find.
I don't think I have seen any photo besides the ones you have posted.

Also check out page 146 in the main text of Goll's Thesis.

Tom B.

For reference this is Goll 4408

(Mac corrected my error in a post below: this was not part of Chalcis Hoard)
It is the most complete of the Chalcis Hoard great bascinets.
Is this one still in Athens?

Tom B.

It gets even better when one looks into the poleyns of A 60 and A 62 and sees that both have straps running down the center to keep the lames from gapping! Wow! Let me make sure I understand. Is there a vertical strap on the inside along the centerline, connecting the lames to eachother? One strap ...

Tom B.

Thanks Mac
I look forward to watching this on the St Florian legs when you get there.
I see how this motion would be benificial and have noted its absence in my current leg harness.

Tom B.

Thank you for the images. Under the tournament heading I saw what appears to be a closed "fist" type gauntlet. Am I correct? Is there any more information available on this artifact? They are often refered to as locking gauntlets. I think if you do a search for "locking gauntlet" you will find the ...

Tom B.

Ernst wrote:(You know I'm going to ask about the mail. LOL)

Is this the Rudolph IV haubergeon?
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7VQpDd ... edit?pli=1

Yes it is.
Not sure why I don't have a better overall pic.
You can see a sleeve in some of the other pics.

Tom B.

I had also wondered about walnut shell or other media used in firearm brass processing for reloading. Walnut shell is probably a bit too aggressive. I have used walnut shell media in a vibratory tumbler on reproduction mail. Did the walnut end up polishing it? It worked for my purposes but it defin...

Tom B.

I have finally uploaded photos from my 2007 trip to the Royal Armouries in Leeds.
They are on my Google drive here: RA Leeds Trip 2007

Tom B.

Mac, While looking through Goll's photos a few months ago, I was surprised to see extent of use of sliding rivets in late fifteenth century German style knee articulations. There are several examples where every articulation rivet seems to be a slider while some only use slots in the top and bottom ...

Tom B.

Here are links to the full PDF's for those legs that Mac posted:

PDF for Goll 2845

PDF for Goll 3020

Tom B.

I have also added a Pinterest Board with all of the images in Dupras' Thesis.

Dupras' Thesis Images

Tom B.

I have also added a Pinterest Board with all of the images in Dupras' Thesis.

Dupras' Thesis Images

Link to thread about this thesis:

Tom B.

Johann ColdIron wrote: I had also wondered about walnut shell or other media used in firearm brass processing for reloading.

Walnut shell is probably a bit too aggressive.
I have used walnut shell media in a vibratory tumbler on reproduction mail.

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