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Baron Conal

[quote="Kilkenny"]Might give beeswax a try. My sense is that it is likely to be a bit too hard and brittle, but I've got some big pieces and I can test it out. quote] I would asume that there would be a temperature range that it would have to be inside to work right.... not too hard not to...

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I don't have any handle on the useful life in period. I do know of an example of a Captain's bottle, a bit out of our period, that had silver fittings and was a presentation item, complete with engraved plate memorializing the gift. I would think that item was expected to be around for awhile. Woul...

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rough sketch version 1.0

the bees are meant to be scattered ramdonly and will
not be all oriented the same ( easier in Paint to draw them
that way )

the grey areas will have a background texture applied

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Clear Jello (no sugar), the dirty little secret of Hide Glue users. Knox gelatin - although it is quite a bit weaker than the hide glue - it is a LOT more flexible. How about a 1 to 10 rating with 10 being hide glue? Where would the gelatin rate? For both strength and flex... What about mixing the ...

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another question.... What do we think the in-use life span in period might have been? What is the 'SCA use' 'Mid-western USA climate' lifespan of something like this? ( Hardened with parifin and lined with breweres pitch. ) I know anything lasts longer when cared for, but time in hot cars and out in...

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But what they actually used.. I haven't seen anything that would tell me. What about beeswax? Might work like pitch..... Just a thought... The raised "embossed" ribs are starting to sound like something i'm not sure I want to do for a first try and maybe not unless I plan on making more t...

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Kilkenny wrote:For the foam, I'm thinking of harder than camp pad, I have some resilient but near rigid stuff I use for weapon heads that I would use for this purpose.

What would have been used in period?

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If I were going to do embossed ribs such as those on the small costrel (nice piece!) I would start by laying out all of my tooling designs on the flat leather using a stylus with the leather properly cased. I would mark the ribs on the flesh side as well as on the grain. Cased = damp right? ( still...

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James B. wrote:I am not good at embossing but that is my guess on how they were raised. It may have been done on a wooden form.

Anyone know of a link to a site showing how to do it?

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Welp. Costrel just went on my must aquire ASAP list. Any indication that these may have been died, painted, laqured etc? I assume not gilded. if you could afford gilding you would at least be drinking from a pewter costrel. Sean Sean I do not know if painting is correct but i did a paint/wax test n...

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Tightbond makes a liquid version that would save you
the heating issues....

You should be able to find it at any well
stocked hardware store.

edit: read first then reply

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Cool thanks!

How are the.... ummm.... 'ribs'... 'bands' on the small one
raised?

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Being at work and dealing with a firewall I'm limited on where i can look for ideas I'm working on a costrel for my wife. I wanted to do some decorative leather carving on it and wanted it to be a bit more period this time.... Who has info on the decorative elements on costrels? Karen, I'm already p...

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somomailler wrote:I actually have a source for some fairly cheap HEAVY leather. I can get it for about 50 bucks a side.

is this source something you can share?

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Started on the form for shaping the ends of the bottle Pictures soon. I've decided to round the top of the bottle over more.... If you look back at the photo of the end of the paper model you can see a circle drawn in pencil.... I've followed the top edge of the circle. I decided to make it flat on ...

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Those in the US....

Pay attention to the height of our visitors from south of the
border. I'm not tall and I stand head and shoulders above
most of them.

Their kids ( born and raised here ) are taller than they are,
sometimes significantly taller.....

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I gotta learn to carve.....

beautiful chest

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So then what is the real difference between arrows and bolts? With the number of other things that are completely different than there historical counterparts I do not see much difference myself. Arrows are overpowered also? I built the first combat siege engine in the Midrealm and wrote the first s...

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dukelogan wrote: than a combat arrow or anything fired from a ballista (which make no sense in our sport anyway).

before I comment I'd like to get this comment clarified....

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umm...

wow.

http://trailblazing.royalsociety.org/

( mouse over the little balls on the page and slide the
marker at the bottle.... )

you can download PDF's of some of the original articles....

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kinda blows the whole idea of fighting for your lady's honor out of the picture when she has to use binoculars to see the fight.... Hmm... I wouldn't recommend pursuing that angle of defense regarding archery. huh? Not sure I understand what you mean. or you didn't understand my point....that's pos...

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kinda blows the whole idea of fighting for your lady's honor
out of the picture when she has to use binoculars to see the
fight....

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From a another point of view what happens if we acknowledge the threat and take precautions and then fail to stop an arrow and we then get an injury? Any lawyer is gonna jump on that so fast your head will not have time to spin. And chances are that lawyer is not gonna be acting at the behest of the...

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I do not believe that there are very many situations where someone has zero responibility for themselves at least at some level. Even if that level is simply paying attention the activity around you and making a effort to understand what risks are possible. That does not mean that I feel the archer'...

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Duke Logan - Where is the line of responsiblity drawn at what point does the archer's responsibility end and the spectator's begin? Where does the line get drawn for your arverage armored fighter? ( both on the list and while he is on the sidelines ) Is there a point at which the spectator becomes r...

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Skutai wrote:Have there been many recorded instances of spectators getting injured by errant arrows?

Yeah, is this trying to fix a common problem or trying to prevent
a problem that has not yet occured?

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I find that I am in the position of having to apologize for not reading thoroughly and for posting a reply without considering it fully I posted to quickly and did not read carefully enough. My quote of Duke Logan was not appropriate. And my comments that followed were also not appropriate. I should...

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Leo Medii wrote:Conal, stop bringing common sense into a thread about combat archery!!!

I'm sorry I did not consider that aspect of my opinion....

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avery and i agree 100% in this. i find it shocking that people would get up in arms when something is enacted to help protect those people that are not participating on the field. shocking. to think that anyone would cry this as unfair just so they can enjoy what they do without any concern for tho...

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Leo Medii wrote:But.....

IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!

For the children or for the childish that think everything
has to be their way or no way?

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mordreth wrote:this gets dumber and dumber.

Maybe a fence to keep archers out would make more sense if there's that big a deal with stray arrows.

IMHO here is an idea that makes only slightly less sense.

Bungee cords on the arrows to make sure that they stay on the list field.

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Ref: Sport armor vs. Real armor Attempt at a better explanation..... ( at least my take on it ) Should the playing field be leveled when for those that choose to carry more weight in armor or is it a simple matter of "that is the end result of a choice that they made and they are the ones that ...

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Torvaldr wrote:With these hardened the way they are, once you finished them and fill them they would practically be weapons.

Yeah, mine could be used for maces to beat someone
up and steal the lunch money and still be in good shape.

Surprized me how hard they are.

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Get some brewers pitch from Jas. Townsen.

Surprisingly easy to work with, I had no issues with my first
try at making a leather bottle. Smells a little funny at first
but I got no off tastes from it....

I will say that I have yet to use the bottle on a hot summer day.

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