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Aussie Yeoman

That's an interesting hypothesis, that there is a correlation between closer canons and turner lames.

So, Wade, why do you suppose the more shaped canons work less well with floating elbows? Also, are you referring to the big Gothic style ones or the smaller 13thC ones, or both?

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Aussie Yeoman

I have a suggestion to make them that little bit better. When you're doing the lower canons, as in, cutting them out, add a 1/4-1/2 inch margin to each long edge. Make them as normal, then after you roll the edges at the cuff, trim the excess width off. This will make your rolls on inner and outer c...

Aussie Yeoman

I'll be stuck in blisteringly cold canberra and won't be able to make it.

I hope, for the sake of those that can't be there, that most/all the proceedings will be captured on film and still image!

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Aussie Yeoman

see, that's the thing - I'm about 5000km at least from the nearest extant european armour, which is a shame.

So I imagine a common solution would have been to just rivet tham back on with a lap joint ala Wade's example?

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Aussie Yeoman

Thanks for the responses guys - very insightful. I suppose I have suffered from a modern mentality with regards to armour, in that I expected it to last a long, long time. However, it just occurred to me that a modern analogy might be safety helmets - most manufacturers recommend users dispose of mo...

Aussie Yeoman

I have recently come to notice something. On many, nay, most Gothic harnesses I’ve seen, on the knee cop, where the cop proper meets the wing/fan there is some form of flute: stepped or symmetrical, or other such device. I presume that this treatment of the cop/wing transition is to increase the rig...

Aussie Yeoman

Thomas H wrote:muhahahaha, PORN.
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NOTE: more added as fast i recieve them.

Nooooooooooooooooo...........! link won't work!

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Aussie Yeoman

It seems, James, that all is not lost. A mint condition full length uncut film, with the soundtrack intact, was found. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc_%281948_film%29 145 minute version: http://www.amazon.com/Joan-Arc-Ingrid-Bergman/dp/B0001UZWMU/ref=sr_1_7?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1306322...

Aussie Yeoman

This is a split from the other thread for obvious reasons. It is my thesis that selfbows in Europe were 'long'. I define 'long' as being something close to the height of the archer or more. Well, no. I give the evidence in my forthcoming _Journal of Medieval History_ article, but in sum: 1. The _onl...

Aussie Yeoman

I'm going to start a new thread about this.

Aussie Yeoman

Cliff, Thanks for those references. Er. They wouldn't be online somewhere, would they? An excellent book on medieval archery (though mistaken in its view that archers before the late 13th c usually used bows of greater than 5') is Matthew Strickland and Robert Hardy _The Great Warbow._ Now wait a mo...

Aussie Yeoman

Well there you go.

Aussie Yeoman

Top thread! I might add that while arrows may or not have magical qualities for penetrating armour, horse hide is not all that impermeable. An unhorsed man, armour or no, is prey to the hooves of unsettled horses. When was full horse plate common/standard? Where can one find all these articles which...

Aussie Yeoman

When I made my breastplate, I used this: http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=79268&hilit=bowling+ball I didn't need to planish at all. Zero. Nada. However, your breastplate is already formed. So, you may consider using a bowling ball on a stick mounted in a vice, then ...

Aussie Yeoman

In my case, pretty much, except instead of raising it back over a point I just pushed the bulge quite deep then set a crease across the knuckles and one in between each. If you want pointy knuckles, then yes, exactly.

Aussie Yeoman

Take a look at the late-15th-century gothic breast & back with fauld and tassets being built in this thread a little farther down the page. Not gauntlets, but neat-o metal forming stuff. Also includes the bowling ball/bungee cord pile driver for large-radius curves with easy thumping. Pics!! do...

Aussie Yeoman

Fear not, the grass is indeed made of old soft drink bottles and such.

I know it should look better when finished up, and maybe better again when I'm wearing it and moving around...but that doesn't stop me lamenting along the way.

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Aussie Yeoman

Hey there dave, I've pondered this problem on and off for a few years now, and I think I have a way to do it with planks, without a whole bunch of concave carving. I will preface this all by saying I base it on no evidence whatsoever other than geometry and wood working, and is not supported, as far...

Aussie Yeoman

Not really progress per se , but it does show where the project is heading. It won't be long before I'll be able to wear this bad boy. About time. Well over, really. http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/dg2clarke/armour/P5080036.jpg The flute lines you can see are intended to end up tracing the sa...

Aussie Yeoman

The mask in that second link is amazing! Good work!

Dave

Aussie Yeoman

Uh, I would consider those gauntlets to be 'fantasy-with-a-gothic-inspiration', rather than being 'Gothic gauntlets'. But to answer your question, no, I don't think there is a single tutorial on the web, or in any book, which presents a detailed hot-to for making Gothic gauntlets. There are several ...

Aussie Yeoman

I've got a word document in which I've got a bunch of headings and subheadings. Helmets - bascinets; Legs - knees etcetera. Into that document I put all the little nuggets I find. The result, a couple of years later, is a gold mine.

Dave

Aussie Yeoman

A little progress yesterday. I cut out and did some preliminary shaping of the front tassets. Now, as for the pattern shape, that was easy. No worries there. Cutting it out was also a cinch. I even cut out extra around the outside for rolling and trimming as necessary. The problem I came across was ...

Aussie Yeoman

I think that you shoudl not hold out for another book from Price. It has been years, and as I understand it he isn't really making armour any more.

It is rather unfortunate that TOMAR is the best and only book on the market.

Aussie Yeoman

They do not need sliding rivets to help the 'downward' (flexion) of the gauntlet. The purpose of the sliding rivets is to allow the lateral (sideways) movement. As well as the articulation of the gauntlet through the lames, you will get a reasonable amount of wrist flexion due to the strap on the cu...

Aussie Yeoman

So I guess the next question for you Wade is, can we see a pic or two? ven though you've just said they look pretty much the same.....

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Aussie Yeoman

From memory, when making a greave in the manner you describe, how did it look compared to one made with heat and raising etc?

Dave

Aussie Yeoman

Line it with kao wool, make two doors and voila - a forge!

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Aussie Yeoman

I only just read that post of mine...terribly sorry for all the speeling mistales.

If you think there are little opportunities to photograph armour in the US, try doing it in Australia! I had to beg photos from a friend who'd been to europe to get access.

Dave

Aussie Yeoman

I'd thought once of forming greaves in a similar, though slightly different way. I'd thought of curling the length of the sheet first, then linear stretch along the edge in order to achieve the anticlasitc curve required. Then I thought it might be easier to try with a two piece pattern. Not such as...

Aussie Yeoman

If I am to understand Wade correctly, I think the attached picture may be of some assistance. Fairly self explanatory as a visual explanation, I hope. The process of getting that flared shape, as well as I know it, is essentially the same as forming the wing/tab/wraparound bit on a floating gothic e...

Aussie Yeoman

I'm having trouble picturing the jouster-router. Do you have a sketch perchance?

What season of New Yankee Workshop was that flagpole makeup in?

Dave

Aussie Yeoman

So if I could just slip a quick question in here, which has little to do with the materials used in a lance, then I'll slip out again: I'd like to make tapered spears. Quite substantial ones, for fencing...not jousting... ala the attached I know they're just dismounted knights with lances, but I've ...

Aussie Yeoman

For the sake of those who are reading this thread keenly, but not quite following....could somone post a picture of one of these saddles that is labelled with the commonly referred to bits?

What's the 'tree'? is that the wooden 'skeleton' of the saddle?

Much obliged,

Dave

Aussie Yeoman

Looking good Jiri.

Are they a replica of an original? If so, can you share a pic? I've never seen a reinforce plate on a gauntlet before.

Dave

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