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- Thu Jun 20, 2002 11:18 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Plastic Versus Metal Armor
- Replies: 109
- Views: 51
<i>If it's not a period pattern, then using a medievally available material does not in any way, shape or form make the safety-gear more 'period appropriate'. A black plastic gauntlet is, IMO, less jarring to the eye then a bright, shiny steel clam-shell gaunt on a Viking. At least the plastic is da...
- Wed Jun 19, 2002 10:09 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Plastic Versus Metal Armor
- Replies: 109
- Views: 51
Marshal: "but the justification for plastic ( concealed ) under mail is that in period in many cases no plate at all would have been worn underneath, apart from the theorized iron or cuir bouilli "plastron", which as far as I know is unconfirmed." You are correct. But - I like the philosophy that sa...
- Wed Jun 19, 2002 12:01 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Pennsic; my first war
- Replies: 37
- Views: 24
"Do not attend the "Pennsic Virgin's party". I cannot vouch for this, as I missed the party my first year (if they even had it). I have heard from several people that they wished that they had not. I believe it may be in very poor taste. The idea is that the "virgins" are the entertainment, rather ...
- Wed Jun 19, 2002 11:55 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Plastic Versus Metal Armor
- Replies: 109
- Views: 51
"Hotsticks don't give a damn about anything but hitting people with a rattan sword. They don't care about looking the part." Not all of them. There are some damn good fighters out there who do dress the part. Ingelri Kelvin and Sigurd come to mind. Frauhirsh posted a thread recently which showed so...
- Wed Jun 19, 2002 9:55 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Plastic Versus Metal Armor
- Replies: 109
- Views: 51
"Steve- there are as many reasons for using plastic as there are fighters." "I wear chainmail with plastic plates under it; am I wearing it to save weight or move faster? Of course not, if that were my goal, I wouldn't wear the mail." O.K., then, why are you wearing plastic plates under it? Why not...
- Wed Jun 19, 2002 9:33 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: A hauberk for a 14th cent. kit
- Replies: 2
- Views: 6
- Tue Jun 18, 2002 8:49 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Pennsic; my first war
- Replies: 37
- Views: 24
Here's my take. I've only been to 3 Pennsics. Proposed to my wife on top of Mount Eislenn last year! http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif After I got back from my first Pennsic, I remember being a little bit disappointed. It took me months to put a finger on it, and once I did, I came to love ...
- Tue Jun 18, 2002 8:21 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Plastic Versus Metal Armor
- Replies: 109
- Views: 51
I think SyrRhys has a point in that most of our armour is too heavy compared to medieval armour. Though one might consider that medieval armour made specifically for tournament was generally heavier than armour made specifically for war, during the times when there was a difference between the two s...
- Mon Jun 17, 2002 9:35 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: How did they draw wire?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 8
Thanks for the plug! 
See:
http://www.forth-armoury.com/research/wire/authentic_wire.htm
For my article on wire drawing.
Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.

See:
http://www.forth-armoury.com/research/wire/authentic_wire.htm
For my article on wire drawing.
Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.
- Mon Jun 17, 2002 6:14 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Simple armor for a 14 year old hitting people with sticks.
- Replies: 17
- Views: 19
An excellent article for the novice armourer is here:
http://www.arador.com/articles/armourstart.html
Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.
http://www.arador.com/articles/armourstart.html
Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.
- Thu Jun 13, 2002 9:29 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Hauberk styles by culture and period
- Replies: 10
- Views: 17
One of the nice things about maille is that it covers such a broad period of time. I do not know the provinence of 45 degree sleeves, but the basic style of the shirt could easily be appropriate from before 1066 to the 14th century, depending on your station and what you wore with it. The only real ...
- Thu Jun 13, 2002 9:24 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Hot Vs Cold Rolled Steel
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5
Often, hot rolled steel comes with "mill scale" on it - black iron oxide that is tough as hell to grind off. You can, though, buy hot rolled steel that has been "pickled and oiled". This means the oxides have been eaten off with acid and they have been oiled to protect from rust. Steve -------------...
- Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:24 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: New Product! Medieval Locks!
- Replies: 9
- Views: 11
- Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:23 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Anyone placing an order with Historic Enterprises?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9
- Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:13 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: My new gauntlets(pic)
- Replies: 3
- Views: 17
The gauntlets look very good.
The elbow cop on your arm looks like it needs to be dished a bit deeper.
Great job!
Steve
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The elbow cop on your arm looks like it needs to be dished a bit deeper.
Great job!
Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.
- Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:12 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Rolling an round edge, how to?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 14
Some folks roll the metal over a piece of wire - maybe that would help?. I understand this is a period technique as well. I don't know if it will help for your round edge though.
Steve
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Forth Armoury
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Steve
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Forth Armoury
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- Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:10 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: chisels
- Replies: 4
- Views: 8
I know some folks have ground chisels and railroad spikes into specific-task stakes. Chisels can be had cheaply from Harbor Freight: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=4885 Not all of these are useful for making stakes, but they are cheap. Also possibly useful starting ...
- Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:07 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: How's this?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 8
Great resource page!
I think the leather washers would be great under rivet heads for coats of plates made with cloth jupons - keeps the rivet heads and burrs from cutting into the fabric.
Steve
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I think the leather washers would be great under rivet heads for coats of plates made with cloth jupons - keeps the rivet heads and burrs from cutting into the fabric.
Steve
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Forth Armoury
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- Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:36 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Books on Armour making
- Replies: 12
- Views: 16
Another great overview book is <u>Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight</u> by David Edge and John Miles Paddock. It does not really go into much detail on how to make armour, but it is an invaluable reference for armour from the 9th through the 16th centuries. If you are a new student to arms and ...
- Sun Jun 09, 2002 8:23 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Looking for someone who does Mid 13th English/Scots
- Replies: 4
- Views: 10
"has anyone bought one of the welded flat ring hauberks that Museum Reps is selling?" I knew that Museum Replicas was selling flat-washer butted maille, but was not aware that they sold welded maille of any kind. Do you have a URL to their product from their web site? As for your persona, yes the C...
- Sun Jun 09, 2002 8:18 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "That's what I'm on about!"
- Replies: 91
- Views: 83
I'm with Chef, too. These folks are part of what makes the SCA great. Sometimes I regret that I know what I now know, and that I see so clearly the gears that make the SCA machine run. I still remember the feeling when I went to my first SCA event. It was about D&D come to life. It was about fun. It...
- Sun Jun 09, 2002 8:02 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: period lining for helm (SOFC)
- Replies: 11
- Views: 10
Wouldn't surprise me - I used his book as a reference! 
Steve
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Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.
- Sun Jun 09, 2002 3:51 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: You Need to see this!!!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 49
I admit, my 16th century plate armour knowlege isn't the best - I have only studied armour past the 14th century lightly, since anything past that is so far beyond my armour making abilities at this time. Nonetheless, to my semi-trained eye I still say it looks damn good - much like the suits standi...
- Sun Jun 09, 2002 9:37 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: You Need to see this!!!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 49
Bob: I think you under-rate his work. By no means did I go through his entire site, but I did pay attention to articulations and form. Engravings and gildings aside, I'd say this fellow makes armour better than 90% of those on this board. I'd rate him as one of the top 15 armourers I've seen the wor...
- Thu Jun 06, 2002 8:55 am
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: New Product! Medieval Locks!
- Replies: 9
- Views: 11
Sorry, don't have any - I just found these locks that look vaguely medieval. I don't know a thing about locks and have no idea what time period these are appropriate too. They look cool though.
Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.
Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.
- Thu Jun 06, 2002 12:56 am
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: New Product! Medieval Locks!
- Replies: 9
- Views: 11
New Product! Medieval Locks!
[img]http://www.forth-armoury.com/Product_Catalog/locks/lock1.jpg[/img] These tough iron and brass locks will look right at home on a wooden chest or iron door! Each lock comes with two keys, and so far, no two sets of keys have been alike! These are real, working locks, and not toys. They key must ...
- Wed Jun 05, 2002 10:33 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: period lining for helm (SOFC)
- Replies: 11
- Views: 10
Unfortunately, I have been a slacker and have not fought in some time. So I have not yet fought with the liner.
Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.
Steve
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Forth Armoury
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- Tue Jun 04, 2002 6:14 am
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Thank You, Armour Archive
- Replies: 24
- Views: 8
- Mon Jun 03, 2002 8:27 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Brigandine Progress
- Replies: 29
- Views: 145
Wow - that's inspiring! I hope you make a nice documentary of this thing and it's construction as you go! I also bought some of those nails but have been to chicken to start. How do you tin plates? Is is just a matter of getting a vat of molten tin and dipping the plates in? Steve ------------------...
- Sat Jun 01, 2002 10:05 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Hauberk for sale
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8
No kidding Bascot. I hope my friend and supplier over there doesn't disappear in a cloud of vapor. Hell, maybe our maille will become collector's items? heh. Durin: Saw cuts are the most superior cut available for butted maille. They are also the most labor intensive. Please see: http://www.forth-ar...
- Fri May 31, 2002 4:37 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: European Round Rivet, Round Cross Section Maille
- Replies: 12
- Views: 22
I, too, believe from the picture that this maill is of flattened, mostly D section. There are 2 rings immediately to the right of the buckle that are edge-on to the screen that support this. Further, I also believe this shirt utilizes wedge rivets. The right-most ring to the right of the buckle is s...
- Fri May 31, 2002 4:26 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Maille coifs - when were they used by themselves?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 9
I believe it is <u>Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight</u> which talks about separate coifs during the 11th century, and how if they were used it was a fashion that did not last. From 11th-13th centuries it seems quite common to find coifs integrally attached to shirts of maille. However, I for o...
- Fri May 31, 2002 6:17 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Effectiveness of chain armor vs stabbing weapons
- Replies: 9
- Views: 11
"All armour is evenualy about nothing more then improving your odds. none of it is completelyproof against thrusts, cuts or just about anything else except sparrows." Sasha the wise answers well. I would add this: In general, a given piece of maille will provide better protection against slashing c...
- Thu May 30, 2002 9:30 am
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: New Product from Forth Armoury!
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4
Hi guys!
All of the rings are of riveted construction. No word on alternating-row maille yet.
Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.
All of the rings are of riveted construction. No word on alternating-row maille yet.
Steve
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Forth Armoury
Highly authentic, affordable riveted maille.
- Wed May 29, 2002 11:48 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: New Product from Forth Armoury!
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4
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