The Armour Archive

Steve S.

I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood you when you said, "Since the field is the sole province of knights" . I corrected you because no one had made the assertion that the melee field was only for knights. However now that you have ammended your assertion to say "pesantry", yes, you are right, some a...

Steve S.

"I am not afraid of a good, fair blow. I am afraid of the kind of hostility I read here, coupled with the testosterone poisoning you see on the field. I don't play where I'm not wanted, and the only reason I thought I might do this is because I thought I would be wanted. How could I know the smac...

Steve S.

Well, assuming this is an extension of the Knights and Archery thread, firstly it is not necessary to be a knight just because you are noble. So you could be a noble on the field but not a knight. Secondly, maces are considered a knightly weapon, so they would be allowed in addition to swords, lance...

Steve S.

Cheval: "These are the FACTS: 1) Generally speaking (Bob's wonderful notes to the contrary), nobles did not use archery. 2) By definition then, anyone shooting a bow is presumed to be non-noble 3) Tournaments are argued as being a contest for only those of noble blood. 4) Any battlefield that has...

Steve S.

Not being able to read or post to this all day, I have nonetheless given it a great deal of thought until I was able to post tonight. "SoFC: "I agree with your interpretation.... Outlaw combat archery tomorrow.... And then, outlaw every non-noble persona and/or activity that steps on site. I wond...

Steve S.

Well, I think I fully understand both sides of the issue now. I like combat archery. I like the threat of being hit by it. I enjoy the thought of participating in a pretend war instead of a pretend tournament. I don't enjoy tournament combat. But, I agree with your interpretation. If the SCA is supp...

Steve S.

<HR> "I believe that we allowed something (CA) on the basis that it was, superficially, clearly a part of war. The problem is, we never investigated the deeper effect this would have on some of our core concepts -- like the fact that we are all nobles, or ...

Steve S.

"Falling down is what I've been training for. But "unlikely" means some star of chivalry is still likely to take out his frustrations on me. Yes, I know it's a gainst the rules, I know the marshalls should stop it. It still will happen." A properly armoured person should be able to take this withou...

Steve S.

A couple more definitions from the Society Marshal's Handbook: "War : A declared state of feigned hostility between two or more kingdoms, branches, or other recognized SCA groups, for the express intent of holding group combat. 19. War Maneuvers: Group combat events not involving a state of decla...

Steve S.

I'm sorry, but I think you've painted yourself into a corner. You say that melee combat is a tournament because of the rules that exist: "How do we know it's a tournament? Because of the rules that exist, get it?" And yet you admit that those same rules permit archery: ". It's not whether the rules ...

Steve S.

"A.) if we change things to let less-skilled fighters win we destroy the value those things have." O.K., sure. But if you change things to alienate less-skilled fighters you are losing people to play with. Maybe that doesn't matter (quality vs. quantity) but the spirit of the SCA has always been on...

Steve S.

"I have a huge problem with not just the Northern Region army but with any of the large infantry oriented groups that try to get away from the SCA spirit of chivalric combat." See, I disagree with this, too. Let me say, that I fullly understand you guy's (pro-tourney) point of view. O.K., everyone ...

Steve S.

":::sigh::: We're *not* simulating war, and claiming we're doing so doesn't make it so. Haven't you read the previous posts? Our very rule structures make it *clear* that we're fighting large tournaments." Our very rule structures also make it clear that combat archery is sanctioned by the Society....

Steve S.

"techniques and behavior that is un-knightly is STRICTLY PROHIBITED IN THE SCA." Either this is not so, or the rule is blatantly not enforced. One trip to Pennsic will reveal rows of siege engines and hundreds of archers. Further, the combat rules specifically provide for combat archery equipment a...

Steve S.

"If we are all supposed to be nobles, armored according to our station, it stands to reason that weapons that were ineffective against the armor we're supposed to be wearing actually BE INEFFECTIVE." Well, I gotta go with that one, too. If SCA melee combat is intended to represent tournament combat...

Steve S.

Cheval: "To bring it closer to home, if you support a counted blow format (ostensibly to better simulate a fight to submission from repeated strikes), would you also count arrows the same? As kills? Or what?" 1) I'm not aware of any counted blow format of fighting in melee, thus I don't see how it r...

Steve S.

"I'm not sure what the armour standards for archers are in your kingdom, but the last time I read the rules for combat archers in the Midrealm, their equipment was equal to that of scouts. A scout helm is designed to take one or two blows. Sufficient if the person didn't hear the words, "I yield", ...

Steve S.

This subject comes up from time to time; I still think I heard it best from someone who said: "If you are going to give up limbs you better do it for every fighter you go up against - otherwise you are insulting the ones you do it for" Basically, if you give up a limb for some fighters but not for o...

Steve S.

Firstly, I agree whole heartedly with Templar Bob - assholes will eventually find themselves sued. Sarnac: "Steve.... However I have seen this happen too many times... Archer is behind the lines... fires shot... Fighter breaks through the line...runs up on archer. Archer screams "I yield!" loud e...

Steve S.

"SOFC: "...whether it is a War or a Tournament..., it should have archery." OK, you've stated your thesis, but you fail to say -why-. Is it because it's fun" Er, I did say why, and in fact you quoted me as follows: "SoFC: "If they are arrows as part of some nobleman's grand tournament, the...

Steve S.

My two cents: I don't believe in the "tournament" subscription to our "wars". I can see a definite arguement for saying they are some rich nobleman's replication of war in tournament style, but I like to pretend I'm actually in a life-or-death battle. It's fun. In either case, whether it is a War or...

Steve S.

I quit reading this read about a half way through I guess. To me, this is an easy one. Anyone on the field should be a legal target to hit as long as you are following the standard rules of engagment. Yes, you should be able to yield. But you should be prepared, even if you yield, to get clocked. Th...

Steve S.

The picture is fuzzy, so it's hard to tell, but it looks very good. I'd need some more pictures to be able to rate it price-wise against other armourers. The essential thing when you are selling something is to find out it's TRUE cost. True cost. This is not just your time (labor cost). The cost of ...

Steve S.

Beautiful! A bit to bulbous for my taste, but it's so great to see these visors done in one piece instead of welded!

Steve

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Steve S.

Yeah, great pics! Now all your son needs is a nice riveted shirt of maille to go under that armour...

Steve

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Steve S.

Here's a big THANK YOU to Sinric for orchestrating this unique opportunity!

Thanks!

Steve

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Steve S.

You might want to check out this article here:

http://www.arador.com/articles/armourstart.html

Steve

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Steve S.

Here is the bench I made. It is made entirely of 4x4s. It's great to finally have a bench to work on (whatever I'm working on) that doesn't march around on you. [img]http://www.forth-armoury.com/temp/bench.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.forth-armoury.com/temp/bench2.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.forth-armour...

Steve S.

You've already hinted at it, but it looks like the lames and cop could be a bit more dished.

Looks great though! How does the vambrace hinge? Leather?

Steve

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Steve S.

Do an internet search on mill or grinding balls.

Steve

Steve S.

You might want to check out this article:

http://www.arador.com/articles/armourstart.html

Steve

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Steve S.

I got mine!

Steve

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Steve S.

I had the same problem with my alternating riveted/solid shirt. I solved the problem by adding another row of riveted rings to the front so that it matched up. It requires fairly close scrutiny to catch.

Steve

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Steve S.

If you do not remove the black scaley oxide from your annealed rings it will crinkle off when you open and close the rings for weaving. It will also come off during use. It basically makes an aweful mess. This is why I eat it off with acid and then tumble them to polish them up. I have yet to encoun...

Steve S.

"To sew pieces of cloth into a bunch of connected tubes leave little protection from a thrust catching one of the edges of the "channel" and going right through a couple thin layers of cloth." However, wouldn't the maille be your primary defense against cuts/thrusts anyway? The advantage to the "tu...