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by Gundo
Sun Aug 26, 2001 1:48 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: 'nother question
Replies: 28
Views: 16

I was not and am not offended. Just supplying a little evidence to support my position. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity is very rare. Every man almost, and every woman, has a dash of madness - R.W. Emerson A posit...
by Gundo
Sat Aug 25, 2001 9:17 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: None Shall Pass
Replies: 16
Views: 12

The thing about great helm desigs, is that the main target areas are the seams, where you have overlapped layers. These add strength where it's really needed, as well as the mass needed to protect you from the transferred force of SCA-style blows. So you can actually do well enough with 16ga, if you...
by Gundo
Sat Aug 25, 2001 11:48 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: 'nother question
Replies: 28
Views: 16

Well...take a look at www,wiseogre.com and ask yourself if I know what I'm talking about. If you still have doubts, read Brion Price's Techniques of Medieval Armor Reproduction and not that he also says spiral in to the center of a dish. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic...
by Gundo
Sat Aug 25, 2001 7:50 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: arms *pic*
Replies: 25
Views: 21

I agree with you on the counter-sunk rivets. The point of using thinner brass, however, is to not have it sticking so far out from the steel. That's the "clunky" issue we were addressing. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originall...
by Gundo
Fri Aug 24, 2001 7:23 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone up to shaving a horse?
Replies: 13
Views: 7

That's good news, Dougal. Unfortunately, my neighbors have already disposed of all the hair they trimmed earlier this month, and they won't be trimming again for another few weeks at least. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B...
by Gundo
Fri Aug 24, 2001 1:05 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Steel for helmets
Replies: 8
Views: 16

This is why I use the metal gauges that I do. The hc is more durable, at 4 gauges lighter, than mild steel, and also beats stainless by 2 gauges plus a bit. For everything other than helms, that is. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2...
by Gundo
Thu Aug 23, 2001 3:29 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Realgestack with...
Replies: 2
Views: 6

There's a book called "Armor" by Petr Klucina that has at least one pic of a gridded grand guard. It's a cheapish book, I got it for $10 off of a Borders sale table. "The World of the Medieval Knight" by Peter Gravett may have one, it'a also an affordable book and well worth owning even if it lacks ...
by Gundo
Wed Aug 22, 2001 9:51 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone waiting for Wise Ogre slots to open up?
Replies: 29
Views: 25

Thanks, Galileo! and http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/bump.gif ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity is very rare. Every man almost, and every woman, has a dash of madness - R.W. Emerson A position worth taking, is wort...
by Gundo
Wed Aug 22, 2001 9:46 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: klappvisor durabilaty?
Replies: 16
Views: 19

The disadvantages *have* been exaggerated. Sam's suggestion re: vervelles is a good one; you could also add a stop pin and seating notch to each side, if the vervelles are not an option. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> S...
by Gundo
Wed Aug 22, 2001 9:44 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Notice! Changes to links page
Replies: 25
Views: 6

I think the guide to the codes should head the list, so you don't have to scroll to the bottom to find what they mean. I think you should keep TA, as well. Might I also suggest OA, for Oriental Armor, for those types that were vanishingly rare in Europe. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Arm...
by Gundo
Wed Aug 22, 2001 9:38 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: arms *pic*
Replies: 25
Views: 21

Nice, I really like the filed edge on the pooks. Match your brass to the underlying cop a little better next time, and it'll look better. You can also use a much lighter brass, and it won't stick out as much, and will to my eye look less "clunky" I can't tell for sure...did you slightly dish the lam...
by Gundo
Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:23 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: klappvisor durabilaty?
Replies: 16
Views: 19

Most klapps are held in place with a leather strap and the hinge. If both or either get damaged/worn out, then you can run into the problem you describe. Some of us make them with stop-pins the fit to the sides of the visor and help increase the durability of the system. ------------------ <B>Gundob...
by Gundo
Wed Aug 22, 2001 9:18 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Notice! Changes to links page
Replies: 25
Views: 6

Perhaps better than separate lists, would be letter codes listed with the links for types of armor/etc. offered. PA=plate armor, MA=mail armor, LA=leather armor, etc. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity is very rare. ...
by Gundo
Tue Aug 21, 2001 3:58 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone up to shaving a horse?
Replies: 13
Views: 7

I check with the horse farm next door, and get back to you. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity is very rare. Every man almost, and every woman, has a dash of madness - R.W. Emerson A position worth taking, is worth d...
by Gundo
Tue Aug 21, 2001 10:14 am
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: I need an arming coat
Replies: 7
Views: 9

Mhari is pretty good at garb, but she's leery of the arming coats, as her sewing machine can't quite handle the multiple layers. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity is very rare. Every man almost, and every woman, has...
by Gundo
Tue Aug 21, 2001 10:12 am
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone waiting for Wise Ogre slots to open up?
Replies: 29
Views: 25

Will do, merc!

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<B>Gundobad,
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Sanity is very rare. Every man almost, and every woman, has a dash of madness - R.W. Emerson

A position worth taking, is worth defending.
by Gundo
Mon Aug 20, 2001 4:16 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: A Project for All Members (Letters P, Q, and R)
Replies: 12
Views: 29

I think these should be clearer. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by schreiber: Planishing: A technique used typically after forming a piece of metal. The piece is struck from the good side with a lightsmooth-fac...
by Gundo
Mon Aug 20, 2001 4:07 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: A Project for All Members (Letter C and D)
Replies: 24
Views: 47

Demi-gauntlet: aka half-gauntlet. A rigid or articulated piece of armor for the wrist and the back of the hand, lacking the protection afforded the fingers and thumb by a full gauntlet. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sa...
by Gundo
Mon Aug 20, 2001 4:02 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone waiting for Wise Ogre slots to open up?
Replies: 29
Views: 25

The 27th of August is the end of the discount period. All down payments must reach me by midnight the 27th, or no discount. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity is very rare. Every man almost, and every woman, has a da...
by Gundo
Mon Aug 20, 2001 4:01 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone waiting for Wise Ogre slots to open up?
Replies: 29
Views: 25

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Garridan: <B>Plate VIII in the Armourer and His Craft shows the armpit... but hits to that tiny opening that the compression articulation covers is so rare, I'm really not going to worry about it. </B> Thanks, I'll take another look at it, must've missed that one at first...
by Gundo
Sun Aug 19, 2001 2:03 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone waiting for Wise Ogre slots to open up?
Replies: 29
Views: 25

The type I make is essentially a sallet-shaped close helm. The bevor is mounted to the helm at the same points that the visor is, and pivots up and down. The articulations of the lower section of the bevor allow you to tilt your head back and turn to the side without exposing anything. You can't mov...
by Gundo
Sun Aug 19, 2001 9:33 am
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone waiting for Wise Ogre slots to open up?
Replies: 29
Views: 25

Hey Nicolai, nothing is actually complete yet, but maybe something will be by Thursday, you're welcome to come on by even if not. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity is very rare. Every man almost, and every woman, ha...
by Gundo
Sat Aug 18, 2001 12:23 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone waiting for Wise Ogre slots to open up?
Replies: 29
Views: 25

Hmmm...Just the breast/back, and the helm? $450 in mild steel and discounted. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by merc: <B>Sir, How much would the gothic harness cost if you subtract the discount, put it in mild ...
by Gundo
Sat Aug 18, 2001 12:18 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone waiting for Wise Ogre slots to open up?
Replies: 29
Views: 25

By forego, I meant remove. Frankly, I had completely forgotten about the armpits, and I don't have any good pics of how they are enclosed. More compression articulations? Yikes. The prices I've mentioned apply to not having fully enclosed armpis, as well. I think kneeling itself wouldn't be a proble...
by Gundo
Sat Aug 18, 2001 11:43 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: On the armor glossary...
Replies: 2
Views: 5

On the armor glossary...

This applies to the whole thing. we should include a caveat that at least some of these terms are accepted modern usage, for the convenience of our discussions. For example: The differentiation between an armet and a close helm. They were all just helmets to those who wore them. ------------------ <...
by Gundo
Sat Aug 18, 2001 11:39 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: A Project for All Members (Letter C and D)
Replies: 24
Views: 47

Pretty sure. I think it might be only for helms. I first encountered the term here on the Archive...I forget who mentioned he wanted to make one to raise helms on it. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity is very rare. ...
by Gundo
Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:46 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: A Project for All Members (Letters P, Q, and R)
Replies: 12
Views: 29

Peascod: a one-piece breastplate with a pronounced and low-riding belly section, cut high at the hips, usually with attached articulated tassets. Some examples have a central ridge. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity...
by Gundo
Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:40 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: A Project for All Members (Letter C and D)
Replies: 24
Views: 47

Corrected: Couters: elbow pieces of plate. Croupiere: Armour for the hind part of a horse. Cuirbouilli: armour made of shaped and hardened leather. Cuisses: Thigh pieces of plate. Dobble: a form on which to raise armor. More than I thought on first glance. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre A...
by Gundo
Fri Aug 17, 2001 8:32 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: A Project for All Members (Letter C and D)
Replies: 24
Views: 47

A few typos, a few mismatched cases. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity is very rare. Every man almost, and every woman, has a dash of madness - R.W. Emerson A position worth taking, is worth defending.
by Gundo
Fri Aug 17, 2001 8:28 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: This is *SUPPOSED* to be fun!!???
Replies: 5
Views: 14

Here's something that may help: put your bolts in, the set your assembly over a ballstake, and beat the snot out of it with a soft face mallet, particularly on the overlap. this will match your curves right up. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armor...
by Gundo
Fri Aug 17, 2001 8:25 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: A Project for All Members (Letters A and B)
Replies: 14
Views: 61

Feh. Bad enough you waste your time, you throw mine away as well? I will put you in a burlap sack and beat you with a live snake if you delete this thread. Anime: A cuirass of horizontal lames. Anvil: a tool used in armouring. Generally a large and heavy item of steel, with one or two horn-shaped pr...
by Gundo
Fri Aug 17, 2001 4:55 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone waiting for Wise Ogre slots to open up?
Replies: 29
Views: 25

Y'know...without the fully enclosed parts, it's actually a fairly plain harness. It won't require near the precision, and wouldn't be any harder to do than a more typical Milanese harness. So that'd reduce the cost more substantially than I first said. So...a *similar* harness [essentially Milanese ...
by Gundo
Fri Aug 17, 2001 4:29 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: This is *SUPPOSED* to be fun!!???
Replies: 5
Views: 14

Umm...I'm a little confused by your description. Seen from the edge, both your cop and your lame should present an approximately U-shaped profile, and the curves should match. ------------------ <B>Gundobad, Wise Ogre Armory Wise Ogre Pic of the Day Wise Ogre Armory T-shirts & more </B> Sanity is ve...
by Gundo
Thu Aug 16, 2001 4:06 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Anyone waiting for Wise Ogre slots to open up?
Replies: 29
Views: 25

The bulk discount doesn't apply to a single harness. The reason why is that there isn't the same sort of "assembly line" sort of operation I can use in the production of a batch of spaulders/elbow cops/whatever. So...The discounted Henry harness would run $7500 [still a hell of a deal, IMO]. Anyway....
by Gundo
Thu Aug 16, 2001 3:47 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: are there any armorers who teach in N.C?
Replies: 8
Views: 6

There is a Master Armorer much closer to you. His name is Tom Justus, and he reads this board, and you might occasionally even catch him in chat around 10pm. I haven't been in chat lately, myself...I've been going to bed too early http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/frown.gif ------------------ <B>Gund...