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- Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:13 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
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- Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:50 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Cheap 16th Hat Project
- Replies: 11
- Views: 395
- Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:45 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Tourney of the Lily Pas D'arms: This weekend!!!
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1094
- Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:46 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
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- Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:30 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Long..umm wiell things... off the arm of a cotehardie...
- Replies: 16
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Re: Long..umm wiell things... off the arm of a cotehardie...
Actually, I think her usual theory when she taught workshops about them was that they were usually fur, but the article seems to indicate more that they were only fur sometimes. (It's hard to say, really. I suspect they were woven fabric, often white, possibly silk, because it sure looks like it's ...
- Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:30 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: What do you usually wear to court?
- Replies: 24
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- Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:29 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Cotehardie queries
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- Views: 307
The bag lining is attached at all points and the flat lining is loose at the bottom I think? Nah. Flat-lining means all the layers are placed together before sewing the pieces to each other. Bag-lining means you sew the whole garment two times and then attach them both to each other such that one g...
- Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:21 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
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- Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:17 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
- Views: 3802
All right, Horace, more pictures. These are to give folks an idea of all the pieces going into the dresses. First, there's my simple white 3.5 oz. linen shift. (Folded in half in this picture.) This has a very deep boat neck, tiny shoulder seams, and is made of two panels with skirt flare built in. ...
- Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:43 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: I want to hear thoughts on this person's rant
- Replies: 115
- Views: 3743
- Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:53 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Terms and modern historical “re-un-accuratesâ€
- Replies: 525
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- Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:14 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: I want to hear thoughts on this person's rant
- Replies: 115
- Views: 3743
It didn't offend me the way it seems to have offended other readers who posted above me. He's not wrong about the dilettante nature of many of the fighters in the SCA. People with a serious athletic background who become SCA fighters often remark on the lack of practice, conditioning, and general fo...
- Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:49 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Terms and modern historical “re-un-accuratesâ€
- Replies: 525
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3-4 inch wide belts. and even wider. Is there ANY evidence for these? For women in the mid-to-late 15thc in Europe, fo' sho'. In fact, it's been a hard thing to find a repro belt buckle in the appropriately wide and shallow format that is seen in figural art on women wearing the v-necked dresses. R...
- Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:32 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
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- Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:30 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
- Views: 3802
My dark brown foundation dress is finished. I just need a long lace for the one open side seam. Fits pretty well! I also sewed up a partlet out of a fine white silk -- maybe habotai? I'm not completely sure of all the names for the light-weight stuff, but I'm pretty sure this is habotai. I'm concern...
- Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:33 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
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- Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:49 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
- Views: 3802
- Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:14 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
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- Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:32 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
- Views: 3802
Thanks, guys. *********** Last night I did the eyelets on one side seam for the dark brown dress. It'll fit and support like it should. I need to tweak a few tiny, tiny spots, but I can do that tonight, along with finishing the neckline, hem, and cuffs. An observation: I can see why hidden lacing ri...
- Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:00 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
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Part Deux. I used some stiff organza as the first layer of veiling and some very gauzy, floaty chiffon for the top layer, which has a folded back lappet effect (similar to a fair number of the brasses we've been examining). I found the two layers worked well together. I neglected to pin the top laye...
- Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:30 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
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Picture post! Hennin structure is done (not perfect, but decent), pictures are processed, so I figured I'd post part 1 of 2. Part 2 will include the veil and my hair properly done and me wearing the thing without assistance of my hand. http://www.cottesimple.com/EnglishCylinderHennin/project/1.jpg h...
- Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:41 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
- Views: 899
Re: no, this is a monstrosity
gaukler wrote:It's from Mrs. Ashdown's British Costume, 1910. Lots of great pictures:)
I think that lady is giving a particular message that perhaps only a twisted mind like mine is getting.
And yeah, mine is positively BORING next to hers.
- Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:00 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
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Long, productive day. I was unable to attend the East Kingdom Crown Tournament (which was today) so I spent morning 'til now (9:15ish pm) working on the hennin. I finished all the embellishment -- gold couching and pearl applique. Unfortunately, some of my better understanding of the proposed cylind...
- Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:54 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
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- Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:57 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: East Kingdom Crown List
- Replies: 100
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- Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:36 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
- Views: 899
- Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:52 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
- Views: 899
Mac, excellent sketches, thank you. Pictures are certainly worth lots of words when it comes to explaining what we mean. I understand your points much better now. I still believe what we're seeing is a cylinder in the case of the brasses and Elizabeth W's portrait, and I think it was born out of the...
- Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:55 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
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These painted images are awesome! Thank you so much! Commentary on the alabaster under discussion -- not only is the gown pretty standard for the later-time theory, but so is the jewelry around her neck. This work is depicting something historical and the artist has done a great job recreating the f...
- Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:35 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
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- Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:31 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
- Views: 899
The answer to your assumption (which I assume is something of a question) is: Yes. I know. If you read the second question in my image above, you will see evidence that I know of what you just mentioned. I've even read a book or two on the subject. Thanks for mentioning it anyway, for those who may ...
- Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:37 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Dress Diary: Elizabeth Woodville project (final pics)
- Replies: 120
- Views: 3802
Added some fabric back into the side seams on the foundation dress. Seems like it'll work, but I won't know for sure until I try it on with the chemise and lace it up. Kind of a do-or-die moment. I won't get to the eyelets before this weekend. I'll take it with me to Crown Tournament and try to get ...
- Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:28 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
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ETA: Forgot one. I like this one because it shows some sort of split or seam up the front. m Did you see what else it has? A peek inside the top layer dress, showing that the white purfelle (or fabric trim) cuts a right turn and heads up into the shoulder... thereby heavily implying a square-neckli...
- Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:39 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
- Views: 899
V-8 Moment: If I have two veils, one as shown by William above, and then another, more diaphanous, longer one over that, I'd get the effect seen in the hard-to-interpret images. Huh. Worth a try. Bob -- I wasn't trying to take the brasses entirely literally, but I wasn't ruling out a possible strang...
- Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:58 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
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Wow! Nice rendering skills! Yes, that's it. The only thing I'd do is remove that horizontal line you have that is bisected by the point of the V in the back. There's no crease or further bend there; all the bend happens at the top and goes straight down from there. Thanks, William, that's really a g...
- Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:19 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: The English Hennin Puzzle
- Replies: 70
- Views: 899

