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schreiber · Re: April 30, 2011 armour study session More shots, taken at 20x

More shots, taken at 20x

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Home safely. It was really good to meet everyone!
I'm attaching some money shots.

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I think there is some piece of info we're missing from contemporary illustrations, because I just don't see how it can work well. Has anyone actually tried the whole slit leather palm mail mittens thing for actual full speed sword work? Well, I've been looking at late period gauntlets a lot recentl...

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Take what the Funckens say with a grain of salt.
Cuirass is lookin' sweet, tho.

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Received PM, sale pending.
Although if it takes less than 12 hours to sell a pair, expect another in a month or so!
Also, point of curiosity: did anyone pass based on the size? If so, how big's your hand?

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One more pic.

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Made by me. Brand new. Mild steel, 16g. The lames are flared on the back edge and nest nicely. Throughout articulation there is very little gap. This means a smack on the fingers is very likely to hit a reinforced edge, and even if it deforms the plate it'll immediately contact with the one under it...

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Im using my neighbor's stick welder, which my only experience has been with a wire feed. Lets say after the left gets welded up, no more welding until I buy a wire feed. I never again want to deal with a stick welder! Yeah, I thought I recognized it. I did the same thing - made exactly one helm wit...

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When you say "I'm not able weld stainless at my shop" this insinuates that you can weld other things. Why not stainless? If you have a welder, have you determined you actually can't do it? If it was me, and I couldn't do it, I'd look at getting the whole thing jobbed out by an armorer. I t...

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Well this is my first attempt at armor, so I decided that before I finish this gauntlet completely and make the other one, I need to get some pointers so I can decide if I need to just start over or I should just take it into consideration with the next pair I make. Make the other one. Repeatabilit...

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"MAKING WELDING FUN ANAGIN"

Brilliant.

Looks like it's just brazing.

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although early calls were in the region of $40 for a 4x4 16g mild steel sheet - which seemed ridiculous to me. Well, it shouldn't. The last 4x8 I bought from a steel yard was some time ago and it was close to $70. So you probably got quoted close to cost, possibly below at this point in our mass in...

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Wow, that's too bad we're not going to be able to check out the arm. Lots of questions there. Nice find!

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No 9Luger?
Or 357 magnum?

I'd also be really interested in seeing what 7.62x25 would do - it's supposed to be a modern helmet piercer, if the box of truth is any judge.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu25.htm

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Ductile Iron.

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snip But if you work on a flat (or flatter) Anvil Shaped Object keeping the metal in touch with the edge and hammering on the "air" like you would do normally, deliberately developing radial creases that you will flatten afterward, then you are not thinning the middle, but in fact you are...

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He might be short, but judging by the width of those pieces, he ain't exactly small.
Nice work! You got a really nice curvature on those cuisses.

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I don't have tutorial links. Option 1: buy strapping. Option 2: buy a strap cutter. The second or third time you do this, the strap cutter pays for itself. You make a small cut with scissors, feed it into the blade, and then zip - you have a strap. The only hard part is cutting a straight edge to st...

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Will it do 10g mild steel as well? Maybe once or twice, before either the punch shatters or you crack the frame. What are you doing with 10g mild for armor? If you're doing thicker than 14g mild on a regular basis you want one of the larger RW punches. Like a 2, 7, or 8. There are also non-portable...

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Well I like your post except that blooms were not what was delivered to the smith, Merchant bar perhaps but an upscale smith like an armourer would probably be working with more refined wrought iron. It's interesting to note that "The Royal Armoury at Greenwich, 1515-1649: A History of Its Tec...

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the author say's that dishing is inferior to raising as it thins the material and should not be used. You know what they say about opinions.... It really depends on your clientele. If you're making good reproductions, yes, most of what you do is probably not going to be dishing. If you're getting s...

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Make $120 stainless bascinets with 12g skulls and clean barwork, and you won't be able to fill all the orders you get.
Whether you can make money like that is, as Odd pointed out, the real trick.

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And needs to be able to store things that are large format because folding and unfolding posterboard for breastplates and stuff is an irritating concept. I'd make the patterns in pieces and tape them together. Don't fold them, hinge them. Also, I like to collect busted hard drives and scavenge the ...

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3-ring binders and plastic page protectors. One binder for head, one for arms, one for hands, etc. You can put index tabs on the edges to find individual patterns, and organize them by size between the tabs. I also write info on every single piece as I'm designing, like this: "Basic SCA Gauntle...

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How will you be treating the specimen? Polishing and etching? Thomas Yeah, that's another question. I'm just now doing the research on how it's done, and it seems like it's the same essential idea as etching pattern welded steel, only in a microcosm. I'm supposing that without acid, it'd be mostly ...

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Looking at microscopes. I would like to see structure in steel. The SEM photos I'm finding online vary in detail, but it looks like 400x is enough to see some neat things. Obviously going down as far as possible would be nice, but 400x seems like it's in the budget. Saw a Youtube of someone looking ...

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How do you get those front wheels to track properly?
How do you get that pipe fitting to fit well enough that the front wheels don't wobble?
Seems like there are some design issues.

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How thick's the wall?

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Welcome and well come, Martelvonc. Not length exactly, but in the leather's density. Nearest the spine, the leather is densest and stiffest. Quite strong, hardwearing even for leather, and well suited to belts and straps and horse harness pieces and latigo (both tannage and harness use for latigo)....

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You've just reinvented the last, Bran. But you don't need hot water for that forming. Just get the leather damp and you can do all of it. Tack the leather down around its edges with tacks to the wooden last. You will end up trimming away the edges of the leather so treated as waste, as the edges wi...

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Yeah, that Charles VI jupon from AAOMK shows up in a google image search for 'jupon' (it's the red one with a million buttons) and the sleeve doesn't look like it goes farther up the shoulder than modern cuts, and the quilting is clearly at a right angle, and it bunches in the armpits when the sleev...

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+1 on seeing Konstantin's method of gambeson making. I'm slowly working on making, as you say, a four panel garment pattern that i was hoping to use for cotehardies and a gambeson or two, but the sleeve orientation is stumping me. I don't think the typical medieval fitted sleeve would allow the kin...

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Being poor as a college student, have you considered another approach to torso/thigh/arm protection: the standalone long gambeson of quilted cloth? All you need to build one of those is cloth, scissors, pins, notions, and a sewing machine. Or access thereunto. Yeah, and believe it or not, for somet...

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Some initial thoughts here. Don't take this the wrong way but I'm gonna be frank: if you can't afford to buy steel, tools are going to be a problem. Here's my A list of tools, stuff I touch just about every time I work. Workbenches. Nobody ever mentions this. Wood costs money. The amount of wood tha...

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I don't know what you mean, but I'm never going to put anything on my head other than padding I made myself.
Wool roving stuffed inside sewn channels FTW.

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