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- Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:16 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: vrysoun - any idea?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 563
Re: vrysoun - any idea?
Here is how it reads in a transcription (rather than a translation) from this page m Wyth a lyȝtly vrysoun ouer þe auentayle, Here is another online transcription. m Unfortunately, it defied my efforts to cut-n-paste. The line in question is 19 lines below the page mark 103r [99r]. In both transcri...
- Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:10 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: vrysoun - any idea?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 563
Re: vrysoun - any idea?
Graham, By googling the first line, I come to that exact thing in David Nicole's Osprey book on Crecy. I would not trust any translation or annotation by the good Dr. Nicole. I would look around for the original material, and as many different translations as I could; and try to decide what was rea...
- Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:09 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Late 14th century Scottish Knights
- Replies: 26
- Views: 555
Re: Late 14th century Scottish Knights
Of course they are. That said, there is no way around the fact that the GDP of Scotland in 1400 was much lower than the respective GDP of England, which in turn was much lower than the GDP of France, or in a more medieval perspective, the taxes capable of being raised by the crowns. Looking as to th...
- Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:05 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & merciless"
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1089
Re: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & mercil
There is a danger of over romanticising the past. People were subject to the same kind of body decays that we have; arthritis, piles, gall stones, contagions of one sort or another, tooth decay, badly set breaks etc. People may have appeared more hardy, or perhaps they were simply getting on with t...
- Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:02 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & merciless"
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1089
Re: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & mercil
I have read a lot about the Roman legions. And it is not exactly like you make out. The average age of joining was 18 and 23 years of age. But with the Praetorian Guard guard I think going up to 32. But the Praetorian Guard only had to serve 16 years I believe. But the Praetorian Guard tended to ha...
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:24 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: what kind of wire to make medieval pins?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 522
Re: what kind of wire to make medieval pins?
What does he charge for a paper of pins, and how does someone get ahold of him Earnest?
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:23 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Late 14th century Scottish Knights
- Replies: 26
- Views: 555
Re: Late 14th century Scottish Knights
You need to keep in mind the difference in value of coinage as well, guys. A pound Scots isn't the equivalent of an English pound, just as continental coinage varied. " A knight of Cales, a Squire of Wales, and a Laird of the North Country, A yeoman from Kent with his yearly rent, could buy the...
- Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:19 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Velvet covered armour.
- Replies: 3
- Views: 299
Re: Velvet covered armour.
One should note there is a difference between velvet covered aermour, and composite armour that actually is dependant on fabric for its construction - the Munich breastplate is an example of the former, the Met monstrousity is an example of the other. It is more than a minor distinction, because a f...
- Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:11 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Recreating a XV century high level marriage
- Replies: 6
- Views: 188
Re: Recreating a XV century high level marriage
Yeah, well most weddings other than of monarchs took place outside of the church proper, usually on the porch steps.
- Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:41 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Late 14th century Scottish Knights
- Replies: 26
- Views: 555
Re: Late 14th century Scottish Knights
Basically, if you ask about knights, you ask about the lowlands. In that case, there is no discernable difference between them and the continent - they imported their equipment en-masse from there. The armour industry in Scotland make Englands look like a world-beater in comparison, they essentially...
- Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:38 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & merciless"
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1089
Re: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & mercil
Just to add to what Randal said, depictions from Germany regarding "The Ages of Man and Woman" depict the married householder with both his military gear prominently displayed, as well as his crafts tools, implying clearly a fellow of 30-ish, due to average ages of marriage, and entries in...
- Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:49 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Autentic Bishop's Clothing?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 337
Re: Autentic Bishop's Clothing?
You would need to be a millionaire, going by the extant fragments from throughout the medieval era. I think it would be far more expensive to accurately reproduce regailia, (and you would need some very talented embroiderers), than it would be to reproduce the field harness of a king, complete with ...
- Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:30 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & merciless"
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1089
Re: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & mercil
OK, what have you read? I can gladly provide you with some relevant titles covering the subject generally. There is a lot more data existing than you might think, from documentary evidence (harder for the average person to access in the original form, but available in part through published works), ...
- Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:55 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & merciless"
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1089
Re: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & mercil
Ahh I thought it had opened up to talk more about the army in general. But still there is a limited peek age of men in relation to hard physical work and endurance. And being a taylor is not going to take the same endurance and strength as being a knight or man at arms. But of course the skills and...
- Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:48 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Advice for a 14th century armour chest?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 517
Re: Advice for a 14th century armour chest?
James B. wrote:http://www.marhamchurchantiques.com/antique/english-medieval-armourers-chest
Just how do they know it was made to hold armour? Looks like a pretty standard 6 board chest to me, that they are puffing up to charge more money for.
- Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:18 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & merciless"
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1089
Re: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & mercil
I have no problem with it skewing older. But the average age would still be in the twenties as I suggested. All I am saying is there were also very young people involved and it was not rare. Also we should keep in mind the average age would vary depending on what battle we are talking about. How do...
- Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:59 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & merciless"
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1089
Re: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & mercil
To the contrary. Medieval armies were likely to have a much older average than a modern army, as a much larger percentage of older soldiers would still be soldiering long past what was considered the norm today - if it is going to skew in any fashion, it will be older, not younger. Armies generally ...
- Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:58 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: How long was armor held onto?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 529
Re: How long was armor held onto?
Try getting a copy of The Great Siege - Knights vs. Turks [madlxv] Anatomy of a Hospitaller Victory. It is by Stephen C. Spitere, Published by Gutenberg Press, Tarxien Malta in 2005. Mr. Spiteri was the curator of the Armory of the Knights Hospitaller at one time. He is a historian with several boo...
- Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:48 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & merciless"
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1089
Re: "Knights in the Middle Ages were not the brutal & mercil
Interesting article, but it seems very oversimplified. A perusal of criminal violence by the gentry and nobility in England during the reigns of Edward II, and Henry VI however will rapidly give the reader an understanding that not all, or even most cases of violence were caused by PTSD, but were ra...
- Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:25 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: later period breastplates without backplates?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1123
Re: later period breastplates without backplates?
Mac, look at the second buckle up on the fauld. You can see the buckle right to the 'waffenrock' itself at the bottom of the buckle (which appears to be obscured by the jack). The buckle appears to be emerging from within the jack. If the sculpture is as detailed and realistic as you think it is (an...
- Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:05 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: later period breastplates without backplates?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1123
Re: later period breastplates without backplates?
They only thing I see that might be a rivet is on the strap from the breastplate and i think that either on the strap passing though the buckle or holding the buckle plate to the strap coming of the jack. I would expect the straps on the jack to be sewn to the jack rather than riveted to it. I don'...
- Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:21 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: later period breastplates without backplates?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1123
Re: later period breastplates without backplates?
You can clearly see it is rivited to something. Cloth alone is likely to have too much give, and move with use, regardless of how thick, as the jack eventually breaks down from sweat , rust and such. You find buckles on brigandines, but they are always anchored to the plates beneath, and this is for...
- Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:02 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: later period breastplates without backplates?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1123
Re: later period breastplates without backplates?
Eff, If it were tied with points, I would agree with you immediately. Here, however, the hidden source of attachment is apparently provided with buckles. I don't know of any examples of buckles attached to garments, but it is quite normal to have buckles riveted to mail. Thus, I am inclined (at lea...
- Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:01 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: later period breastplates without backplates?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1123
Re: later period breastplates without backplates?
How many of this "great number" are composite armours, put together by dealers over the last 200 years, for clients wishing a complete armour? By the 16th century, a full armour of quality would be a 'garniture', which would have pieces, including multiple breastplates for service on horse...
- Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:19 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Preferred Wood Finish?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 553
Re: Preferred Wood Finish?
Robin Wood uses walnut oil on his, which is what I use.
http://www.robin-wood.co.uk/
I don't care what a company says about linseed oil, I am not putting any on anything I will use to eat or drink out of, and I generally use linseed oil for a finish, or no finish at all on my 'furniture'.
http://www.robin-wood.co.uk/
I don't care what a company says about linseed oil, I am not putting any on anything I will use to eat or drink out of, and I generally use linseed oil for a finish, or no finish at all on my 'furniture'.
- Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:55 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: later period breastplates without backplates?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1123
Re: later period breastplates without backplates?
Interesting. I have seen a lot of 15th century breastplates being sold as of late without backplates. Any documentation of that? Anybody? Only footsoldier harness. Mounted men and knights never would have worn them. Churburg had 20 of them dating circa 1480, along with the barbutes or open sallets ...
- Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:08 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: History of the Domesticated Turkey?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 651
Re: History of the Domesticated Turkey?
http://urbanext.illinois.edu/turkey/history.cfm Which came first—the Pilgrim or the turkey? Wild turkeys were probably first domesticated by native Mexicans. Spaniards brought tame Mexican turkeys to Europe in 1519, and they reached England by 1524. The Pilgrims actually brought several turkeys to ...
- Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:56 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: later period breastplates without backplates?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1123
Re: later period breastplates without backplates?
Interesting. I have seen a lot of 15th century breastplates being sold as of late without backplates. Any documentation of that? Anybody? Only footsoldier harness. Mounted men and knights never would have worn them. Churburg had 20 of them dating circa 1480, along with the barbutes or open sallets ...
- Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:51 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: How to figure out my nationalities?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 321
Re: How to figure out my nationalities?
Pick a time period and culture that interests you. It will save a lot of grief.
- Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:10 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: French Noble Archers - Royal musters 1420-1560
- Replies: 8
- Views: 299
Re: French Noble Archers - Royal musters 1420-1560
Why is the large assumption being made that many of those archers non-specified in rank in the 1470 list must have been noble? Also, in regards to the 1472 muster roll in Dinan, the king was Louis XI, not his father, Louis took the crown in 1461, and the Duke of Brittany was Francis II.
- Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:14 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Dating the earliest t-slot barbutes?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 196
Re: Dating the earliest t-slot barbutes?
That is generally when they appear, and what the earliest extant examples date to. They certainly aren't earlier than 15th century. Earlier barbute forms have more open faces, although you see a little vestigial nasal dip in the late 14th century, the cheek pieces or jugulars (if they were seperate ...
- Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:59 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: English Church Frescoes
- Replies: 6
- Views: 196
Re: English Church Frescoes
Henry VIII did the painting over. The Puritans chopped up the rood screens, and broke glass.
- Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:20 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: the term "helm"
- Replies: 13
- Views: 348
Re: the term "helm"
Eltz-Kempenich wrote:'Helm' to me has always suggested medieval whereas 'helmet' is modern, not unlike our usage of 'armour' opposed to 'armor.'
Nope. You find 'elmetto' in late medieval and rennaisance Italian accounts.
- Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:44 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: the term "helm"
- Replies: 13
- Views: 348
Re: the term "helm"
We are too strict with our modern definitions generally. A perusal of documentary evidence finds terms applied more loosely than modern people use, as we like to minutely catagorize slight variations. Helm and helmet come from helm an old frankish or german word meaning to cover or hide, from an era...
- Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:21 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Unusual Italian barbuta- looking for more historical info
- Replies: 15
- Views: 631
Re: Unusual Italian barbuta- looking for more historical inf
That is a distinct possibility Mikael. I think we are quick to discard such a possibility, and forget the length of working life of a helmet. Then again, it could be the visor was authentic, but put on later to make a "complete" helmet. A barbute with a nasal hardly needs a visor additiona...
