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- Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:01 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: The Fiercely Independent Barbarian/Scot
- Replies: 37
- Views: 35
Hi Vitus, Interesting question. Personally, I do not - you can hardly get emotionaly wrapped up in a country that never quite was a state, and doesn't existed anymore (I suppose you can have sympathy for 'gallant little Belgium though'). I am philosophicaly a diehard Yorkist in reviewing English pol...
- Mon Jun 10, 2002 3:00 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Queen Elizabeth's Armour
- Replies: 2
- Views: 24
Hi Bexter, I believe I have seen a portait of her commemorating her reviewing the trained bands during the Armarda scare. She is wearing no armour other than a standard late 16th century breastplate that appears to be of high quality, and engraved on the normal lines. Given her 'figure', if survivin...
- Sun Jun 09, 2002 10:06 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: You Need to see this!!!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 49
Hi Steve, I went back and looked at Karls work. I don't know how much mid 16th century armour you have seen Steve, but his work isn't very close copies in form of any I have seen. He may well indeed be a better plattener than 90% of the armourers posting to this board, which isn't the point I am mak...
- Sun Jun 09, 2002 1:04 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: reenactors in North Carolina where are you?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 13
Hi Jeff J, While I know Eric loves a big camp, when you stop and considerr the future of the hobby, it is far better Jim start a local company. The more companies there are, the more spread out they are, the better it is for new recruits who are geographicaly challenged, the more recruits there will...
- Sat Jun 08, 2002 4:42 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: No Wal-Mart Warriors Here
- Replies: 116
- Views: 151
Hi Bascot, Not to speak for Gwen, but she has to be talking about the MRL shirt, which as you point out isn't a part of your normal kit. I can document the mail shirt being worn with a fussknechtbrust........ One of my eventual goals is to have a haubergorn - probably one of Steves as I can't afford...
- Sat Jun 08, 2002 4:31 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Quantity over Quality...
- Replies: 76
- Views: 102
Hi Hushgirl, I probably just ought to have ignored this entirely.... <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Because no sensible person with real-world responsibilities want to spend $500+ on gear until he knows if he likes it or not. </font> So then every reenactor outside of the SCA is not a sensible...
- Sat Jun 08, 2002 3:51 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: You Need to see this!!!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 49
Hi Sasuke, Can you compare this fellows stuff in any way, shape, or form with Negroli's? I don't see a lot of embossing or repousse work here. Perhaps you should do some side-by-side comparisons for your own edification. ------------------ Bob R. [This message has been edited by chef de chambre (edi...
- Sat Jun 08, 2002 12:20 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Quantity over Quality...
- Replies: 76
- Views: 102
Hi All, It all depends on what you are looking for. To some, the quality consists in having hundreds (and potentialy thousands) of playmates at an event, and this can be a definite quality of it's own. To others, a high level of accuracy is the quality they strivve for. I am sure you all know what m...
- Fri Jun 07, 2002 11:21 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: You Need to see this!!!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 49
- Fri Jun 07, 2002 11:12 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: You Need to see this!!!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 49
Hi All, I usually make no commentary unless I have something nice to say about someones work. That said, I don't see what you find particularly compelling about this chaps work. On the nice side, his etching. gilding and such seems to be proficient. When it comes to capturing the shape of the origin...
- Fri Jun 07, 2002 8:06 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "That's what I'm on about!"
- Replies: 91
- Views: 83
- Fri Jun 07, 2002 3:15 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Wal-Mart Warrior Speaks Out
- Replies: 153
- Views: 213
I think the problem is with the way Hugh writes. In my reading of his posts, he seems to imply that anyone who does not do SCA combat is a posuer, because anyone who does not fight competitvely is a posuer - and by implicatiuon this only applies to the SCA, and in many previous posts Hugh has stated...
- Fri Jun 07, 2002 1:33 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Kastenbrusts
- Replies: 11
- Views: 25
- Fri Jun 07, 2002 1:05 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Wal-Mart Warrior Speaks Out
- Replies: 153
- Views: 213
- Fri Jun 07, 2002 12:46 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "That's what I'm on about!"
- Replies: 91
- Views: 83
Hi Joaquin, Stop and consider - there are more members like this clan in the SCA than members like you. There are more people interested in Medievalized fantasy than in historical accuracy. By attack and riducule, you will only give weight to the argument trotted forth about 'Authenticity Nazi's', a...
- Fri Jun 07, 2002 12:32 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Armor in period vs. Sport Armor
- Replies: 11
- Views: 37
Hi Morgan, Yes, SCA armour is thicker than it's historical counterpart, but you are underrating the thickness of certain componenets of the historical counterpart. For instance, the cuirasse in specific areas could be as thick as 14 guage (toward the center), and thin out toward 18 guage at the edge...
- Fri Jun 07, 2002 12:11 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "That's what I'm on about!"
- Replies: 91
- Views: 83
Hi All, To me, it looks like these people are having a lot of fun doing their thing. Regardless of the historical accuracy of what they do, it is perfectly acceptable under the SCA conventions as they are currently interpreted. Is it any one persons right to spoil their fun? This sort of interpretat...
- Thu Jun 06, 2002 11:24 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Wal-Mart Warrior Speaks Out
- Replies: 153
- Views: 213
Rhys, I would wager my harness functions every bit as well as the original it copies. You have seen the quality of the cuirasse I brought, and none of the harness is any less capable work. It is amazing to me that you cannot concieve that other people outside of the SCA may well have, and use harnes...
- Thu Jun 06, 2002 11:17 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Steel Vs. Rattan
- Replies: 20
- Views: 17
Sorry Rhys, I see you as a significant factor in the increase of heat without much light being produced in these discussions. I've met you, I like you, I respect your knowledge, but you are so set in your mind regarding certain topics that you might as well have a set of blinders on - you cannot acc...
- Thu Jun 06, 2002 11:11 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Steel Vs. Rattan
- Replies: 20
- Views: 17
Hi Mordreth, I think you are confusing Bascot and me. I am not as 'dismissive' of SCA combat as you indicate - I merely point out that the majority of combatants are not doing what is indicated was done in comparison with the primary form of evidence we have. In point of fact, once I have my saddle ...
- Thu Jun 06, 2002 9:52 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Wal-Mart Warrior Speaks Out
- Replies: 153
- Views: 213
Hi Richard, Don't drag me into this - my only retort was at Rhys's silly assertion that reenactors & living historians armour was unfunctional (by implication) or didn't have to function. It stands to reason that if your armour is an accurate copy of the real thing in all aspects of form and articul...
- Wed Jun 05, 2002 9:19 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Wal-Mart Warrior Speaks Out
- Replies: 153
- Views: 213
Hi All, Vitus, what I am getting at is you are making an artificial divide between the two aspects. You have gotten into your head that reenactors primarily put on a show for the public, and are purely visual. This just isn't true, and tells me that you have not experienced reenactment. Many reenact...
- Wed Jun 05, 2002 8:44 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: No Wal-Mart Warriors Here
- Replies: 116
- Views: 151
Hi Bascot, OK seeing the harness from that angle, and that close, you can see the staples for lance rest - usually they are in groupings of four. That said, the close up shots of that particular harness show up some of it's flaws, the fit of plackart and breastplate, and shape of plackart make it a ...
- Wed Jun 05, 2002 8:18 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Quick question for Chef...
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13
Hi Ryan, Adam hit how it comes apart correctly. There is a pin on the right cheek, and a hole in the overlap on the left. The jugulars themselves act as a spring when it goes together. I have pictures with the visor down, but I don't have any good ones up. It is very much the same general shape as C...
- Tue Jun 04, 2002 9:38 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Cannons
- Replies: 11
- Views: 6
- Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:48 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Wal-Mart Warrior Speaks Out
- Replies: 153
- Views: 213
Hi Marshal, The point I think you miss is that these smaller groups often interact with each other. The 5th Mass Battery is not the be and end all of ACW reenactment, it combines with hundreds of other companies, batteries and regements at events. Wolfe Argent doesn not just play by itself, it plays...
- Tue Jun 04, 2002 6:27 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: No Wal-Mart Warriors Here
- Replies: 116
- Views: 151
Hi Bascot & All, You had asked why I had mentioned that the first two groups kits posted would not have passed muster in Wolfe Argent. Well, where to begin? It really isn't that any of them are particulartly egregious on their own. The captains kit seems to be a very reasonable reproduction of a mid...
- Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:40 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Wal-Mart Warrior Speaks Out
- Replies: 153
- Views: 213
Hi All, The dichotemy is indeed artificial. The assumption is that the only possible means of competitive combat medieval is based soley in SCA fighting. This is utter horse-hockey. Adria, Markland, and the scores of other knock-offs does not exist apparently, Neither does the live steel competition...
- Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:20 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: No Wal-Mart Warriors Here
- Replies: 116
- Views: 151
- Mon Jun 03, 2002 9:19 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: No Wal-Mart Warriors Here
- Replies: 116
- Views: 151
Hi All, Actually, the age demographics on ACW types is mostly in the late 20's - early 40's. Most people as they get older object to sleeping in tents or on the ground. This runs true for most reenactment eras, it can be physicaly demanding, and it is exremely rare to see recruits past the age of 40...
- Mon Jun 03, 2002 7:45 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: No Wal-Mart Warriors Here
- Replies: 116
- Views: 151
As to the idea that armour and artifacts from the middle ages are not available to view in the US, that is a simple misaprehension on your part. Some of the finest collections of Medieval armour, art, and objects are here in the United States. On the East Coast, one needs only to look at the Metropo...
- Mon Jun 03, 2002 6:35 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Brigandine Progress
- Replies: 29
- Views: 145
- Mon Jun 03, 2002 6:29 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Brigandine Progress
- Replies: 29
- Views: 145
I forgot the last question steve - You are right, the plates are dipped into a pan of molten tin, the excess shaken off, and then the plate wiped with a cloth. If the coverage isn't good, we sand and dip a second time. Actually Sinric does, as he doesn't want me burning his house and shop down. This...
- Mon Jun 03, 2002 6:18 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Brigandine Progress
- Replies: 29
- Views: 145
Hi All, To answer further questions. Krag, Fustian is a material that has linen threads making up the pattern in one direction, and cotton in the other. It may have well been the material we have seen in the herringbone weave - a fairly course cloth. There is some evidence that the nap was brushed, ...
- Mon Jun 03, 2002 8:04 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Brigandine Progress
- Replies: 29
- Views: 145
Hi All, To answer questions - Cet, the plates are formed before heat treatment. When warpage occurs it is a pain in the ass to reshape the plate properly - I can't imagine the job were you to try shaping it entirely after heat treatment. I rather suspect you would stress and crack a plate if you wer...

. I always sucked at them anyhow. And you know I can ride in mine, jump, run, what have you.