The Armour Archive

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Pretty much any Late Medieval source of writing in regards to chivalry, and warfare, from Froissart, to Jean le Bel will find the term in its contemporary usage refering strictly to a mans achievement of arms, making them a 'somebody' - casualty lists from battles in Northern Europe tend to use the ...

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Nothing That I wouldn't have to scan. They appear in 14th century English documents as 'crochet and loop' closures.

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THey have been found in late 14th century archaological contexts, last I checked.

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A 'coat armour' would only apply to an example carrying heraldry. The bulk of them seem to have been just another layer of armour worn, in the case of exposed examples, probably a layer over plain mail, as an intermediate level of defense in many cases. Some are seen with a breastplate alone over, b...

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Hook and eyes are certainly around by the early 15th century.

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Since campaigns of the Wars of the Roses were over in weeks, rusty isn't believable.

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Nope, it is going into the quest gallery, I've seen the spot they have picked this weekend for it. It will be protected, and there is no food or drink allowed in the museum.

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Chef, I could have sworn I'd posted evidence numerous occasions on this COP posts refering to evidence for cloth/canvas covered ones. I am sorry if I had failed to do so. Must be my poor over worked brain. The Register of Edward, The Black Prince has one listed in an inventory from 1358, March 6th ...

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When you look at the costs of coats of plats, or brigandines, there are indeed 2 qualities of them. Expensive, and very expensive. None of them were cheap, and I have yet to see any indication of any being covered with canvas at all. A tough foundation, yes, but the covering was always decorative. T...

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THe breastplate with faulds is more like 1400-1420.

The reproduction looks as if the waist is too low - the waist of medieval armour is at the belly button.

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I think silk velvet, damask, and cloth of gold were certainly more expensive than the iron under them. The materials for the covers, even the leather, was by no means cheap. A display of cloth or drapery was the primary form of displaying ones wealth or station, outside of publicly having ones plate...

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Just to add, he is wearing Burgundian fashion, not Italian fashion. Look to images from the Chronicle of Hainault, roughly contemporary, and you will see scads of people dressed just like him.

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Huke. It is a huke, in Franco-Burgundian parlance of the 1420's-1440's. Joan of Arc had one in cloth of gold, she wore over her armour when she was captured.

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Thanks chef! Does anyone know, as a rule of thumb, how big those orbs were? Golfball sized? Smaller? Chestnut size? Tennis ball size? Going from images - remember, as far as I am aware there is only one genuine extant example (and never set up to take feathers), they can range from a thin tube like...

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As I recollect, it is another lion of St. Mark. It is merely the badge of Venice painted, rather than a 'painting' proper.

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Lets just keep this in perspective, we are looking at a 1420s manuscript so it applies to that time frame not to 1340. And, a specific region of Germany. And, it may be purly artistic liscence to identify clearly to the reader of a manuscript which combattant is which. I know of no exant bascinets ...

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France, The Low Countries, and England used ash, pretty specifically. Italy and Spain we have evidence for poplar. Coppiced ash, as Thomas points out, is what would have been used, they coppiced trees specifically for hafting weapons. They trimmed them up with draw knives. In most places as late as ...

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losthelm wrote:It sounds a lot like voiders to me. I could see them being confused as sleeves as some illistrations show them pointed to gambisons or other garments.

Doubtful. The very same source lists voiders.

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There are brigandine sleeves of mail, mentioned in inventories. They were issued with brigandines, standards, and skirts of mail to archers in the mid to late 15th century.

In example, reference the Howard Household Books.

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Northern European lances by the late 14th century, as used by mounted men at arms in combat we know to have been primarily of ash - soft woods lacked the 'stripe' in striking an object with force. Ash was the traditional primary material for weapon hafts of wood. We find documentary evidence in writ...

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Lets just keep this in perspective, we are looking at a 1420s manuscript so it applies to that time frame not to 1340. And, a specific region of Germany. And, it may be purly artistic liscence to identify clearly to the reader of a manuscript which combattant is which. I know of no exant bascinets ...

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Oh, I understand. I just had been reading "The Great Warbow", and it get a bit frustrating dealing with true believers - you obviously aren't. PS, you will be derided for using a 110 lb 'girly bow', and the suggesting will arise, as every level of test is gradually increased, that you even...

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I'd like to see more of your findings. I'm also running some armour penetration tests. This is a pic of my "Proof of Concept." <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/scadougal/5468925144/" title="Armour Penetration by scadougal, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5468...

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Look at the legs - it is a creature of fantasy, the clothing depicted on all the figures is a bit outlandish - as in how saracens and turks are depicted by people who didn't actually see any.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Dolstein_2.gif Pretty well known Paul Dolstein drawing of swedish non-professional soldiers c. 1500, bascinets visible. There is nok indicator that the open faced helmets in the image are bascinets, they could very well be open faced sallets or bar...

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The Jamestown settlers chucked the obsolete armour in disgust. They didn't see it as being particularly effective, except as broken up into pot-scourers.

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It is Venitian, and it is, I believe a distinct style of hat worn by the Doge of Venice. Think of it as a crown.

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I think the lack of a visor mount is artistic stylization. I know theres an English effigy from 1346 showing a visor mount but no visor. BTW, Hugh Calveley has a very similar effigy, but with interesting gemstone (?) mounts on the arms. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheepdog_rex/4817325505/ It could...

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That isn't a center-point bascinet, the point has moved to the back, about halfway to the ultimate point we see on back point bascinets.

It is right for about his demise, a LOT of gear actually turn of 15th (1390-1400) century is misused by reenactors attempting to represent 10-20 years earlier.

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One should point out that there is a difference between purchasing, arming, painting, and committing ships to action, even if one is aboard during the cruise, and leading boarding parties. It is not uncommon for women of noble lineage to command defenses of castles, to 'lead' military forces, aometi...

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Just to reference the HUndred Years War, at the beginning of it, there were no English or French standing armies - there were very few royal garrisons, and nothing that would in any way in structure resemble an actual army rank and file of today, or the 20th-late 17th centuries. Kingdoms lacked the ...

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I have always seen it called a 'bycocket'. A number of medieval hatters use the same term for that style. Wikipedia uses the term 'bycoket' (missing the second 'c') as a name for both an ancient cap in England and the peak fronted hat of later centuries. That's certainly the English term for it. Ch...

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The harness is no later than 1510-1515, the armet is transitional, and has that odd, articulated tail. The garmet you are dead on. I am sure they were wearing harness of the first decade of the 16th century well into the third decade of it. Bellows visor close helm, it doesn't open like a Delorian/...

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The harness is no later than 1510-1515, the armet is transitional, and has that odd, articulated tail. The garmet you are dead on.

I am sure they were wearing harness of the first decade of the 16th century well into the third decade of it.

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Yes, but at the time he is enquiring about, it is a common bit of daily dress.

It is the third layer of clothing, which was de rigure for males to wear. Coathardies and doublets are the foundation for the third, outer layer.