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The various friars used rope as a belt, and knotted at intervals, to boot (at least the Fransiscans), in lieu of a paternoster.

The Medieval French term for Fransiscan is 'Cordillier', after their rope belt, and it is the origin of the feminine name 'Cordillia'.

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The only problem (with India Ink), and it is only a problem if you are trying to recreate the look and feel of a Western Medieval document, is that India Ink was not used in Europe until considerably later than most people are portraying, and Iron gall ink was the norm.

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There are ones extant, of course, similar to the fellow to St. Georges left, but I have never seen anything as fanciful in an actual object, as that to his starboard. It would of course rip away in use eventually, were it made like that, but as Antoinne of Burgundy had a cloth covered one, with flor...

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Just a couple of points. There is a huge, sometimes deliberate misinterpretation of Medieval religious practise being perpetrated here. Some of it is modern anti-religious attitude, some is low church protestsnt 'humour' based largely on ignorance of historical practise. 1. Many, if not most Medieva...

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I don't know if I refused to notice or if it escaped me, but I didn't realize the lid was so much larger in diameter than the actual box. It's an interesting detail... Is there any functional reason for that? Looks lovely, a bit weird in the photo, yes, but I can visualize it! Can't wait to see it ...

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I am very happy.

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As has been pointed out, they are shields that are the norm (well, St. Georges shield is, the other has a bit more fanciful curl), not the exception, and they are quite commonplace in the context of the mounted joust. They are more static defenses, not active ones, such as an earlier heater shield, ...

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Did this practice extend into the 14th C? I thought so, and I was toying with the idea myself (thanks for posting the original question Mr. MacAlpin), but I'm not crazy about the idea of buying an expensive maille shirt and then covering it.... They are at least 12th century Islamic (probably earli...

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Konstantin the Red wrote:Gstraunt would be a variant on jazerant, q.v.

Yes. However, while this implies a scale armour construction, the Howard Books make it clear it is a lined and covered mail defense.

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Covered their maille shirt/hauberk with fabric such as the Saracen style fabric covered maille coats of the 11/12 century? I'm looking at something along those lines and thought this might be the place to check first. Mathghamhain The shirt would not just be fabric covered, it would also have a pad...

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James B. wrote:Wow stitched together? Cool.

That was the standard method of construction for Arab ships for a very long time.

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Just to reiterate, or clarify my point. 1. Clearly breastplates existed in the 14th century. Apparently, going by written evidence, plastrons of iron may have been worn under or over mail as early as the late 13th century. What we see in many of the German images is much more probably, in my thinkin...

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Dieter von Hohenberg (1381) has what looks like a cuirass with faulds And Gerhard von Rieneck (1382) And Beringer Von Berlichingen (1377) Also the Churburg #13 has a lance rest and a stoprib. The C#14 has the rivet holes for a lance rest. Now detachable lancerests I will happily accept as a 15thC i...

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Randall, I don't think you can realistically alter the perspective of the Effigy in question, and come to any firm conclusion about detail of construction such as you are making. It is akin to trying to make Gumby's body shape more closely resemble a human beings. If he had a solid breastplate, and ...

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Yes, I believe so.

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If the pile is long enough, probably. They went at it with shears back in the 15th & 16th century. Yo8u could probably even achieve a gold effect if you were paitient enough to shave down to the weave itself, then gild it with gold leaf - there were recipies for faking cloth of gold, I believe f...

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To the best of my knowledge, velvet wasn't 'embossed', but the pile cut in designs at varying heights, making 'figured velvet', which was usually embroidered with gold thread.

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Actually Randal, having posted in haste this morning, the full faulds are the final identifying mark for probable date. Do you really have any examples of complete sets of faulds encompassing the hip from the 14th century? An example from the 14th is Sir Ralph de Kneyvnton from c. 1370, same exact s...

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Theres a rather pretty one in Italy too, similar to the munich (minus the faulds) but with extra decoratve rivets. I wonder if the lack of rivets across the bottom edge suggests t orgiginally had a fauld? Most likely. It looks like it may have had a lance rest too. Again, it is an early 15th centur...

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Theres a rather pretty one in Italy too, similar to the munich (minus the faulds) but with extra decoratve rivets. I wonder if the lack of rivets across the bottom edge suggests t orgiginally had a fauld? Most likely. It looks like it may have had a lance rest too. Again, it is an early 15th centur...

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knitebee wrote:This is the most published and recognized one, I believe it resides in Munich.

http://houseasgard.com/asgardpic/armorh ... plate1.jpg

Yes, but it isn't 14th century. It is early 15th century.

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The great jokes of history is that the government actually did an assessment in the late-13th century but large portions aren't extant. Also depending on why it might be irrelevant as to how many manors, actually might not change as it is basically a grouping of property. Any particular reason why ...

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Cliff Rogers wrote:You could try Jennifer Ward, _The Essex Gentry and the County Community in the Fourteenth Century_

Thanks Cliff. I'm curious as to the declining military potential of mounted knight service over that stretch of time.

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Have we any evidence of aliettes being worn with spaulders at all? I doubt they'd sacrifice shoulder armour simply for another surface to mark, though if there's evidence of the two together I'd suspect they're purely decorative. The one does not neccessarily imply the other. In example, look at th...

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Does anybody have an idea as to the grand total of manors in the county of Essex and/or Norfolk during the Late 13th and early 14th century? Prior to the Black Death.

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I've seen a few re-enactors point through the ailettes, leaving the knot and laces on the face. I've never seen a depiction of ailettes showing this . On mine, I attached a couple of short strips of leather to the back forming a tube to run the points through. I run both aglettes through the mail, ...

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Very nice!

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I seem to recollect, the the ducal household expenses (it could take me some time to find them, I am still just in the preliminary poking through stages, and there are some 4 volumes of them), that there was some mention of a wood floor being produced for one of the dukes tents, or Antoinne's. Charl...

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Russ Mitchell wrote:Chef, you've just floored me. Composite parchment and leather?

Sorry, I meant composite parchment and wood. Leather on the brain.

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The title says it all I want to know what were aillettes made of. Are they wood or leather or metal? Do we have any extant examples or period text to tell us? The sugerloaf thread has peeked my interest; I may make a set for my armor since I use the Romance of Alexander as my inspiration anyway. Th...

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I tried to read through all the chat several times and I have a few more questions for clarification... 1. Are we saying that Aillettes and Sugarloaf helms are seen together? 2. Are Sugarloaf helms roughly seen between mid 1200-mid 1300 until bascinets become the main helmet style. thanks I think S...

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Once more, the Romance of Alexander image is mid 1340's. "some armour books say", and "this website claims" are hardly sufficient. The concept of armour of antiquity being depicted as old European armour intentionally prior to the late 15th or 16th century displays a lack of know...

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If they are "just about dead", then why on earth do they appear in this 1340's Romance of Alexander? You are wrong sir, plain and simply put.

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Well everything I've read has always stated that brass as belonging to the father. Here is a website saying the same thing as I am. m THat website doesn't say what you think it does Monumental brass of [?] Sir Robert de Septvans, 1306, Chartham, Kent Index of brasses NB. This brass is believed by s...

Re: Has anyone ever?

Late 13th / Early 14th century England

Re: Aillettes - how where they made?