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Another Record Number: 21762 Shelfmark: Royal 16 G. VI Page Folio Number: f.442 Description: [Miniature only] Treacherous attack by Saracens Title of Work: Chroniques de France ou de Saint Denis, vol. 1 Author: - Illustrator: - Production: France; second quarter of 14th century Language/Script: Fren...

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Here is another -

The Hague, KB, KA 20
Jacob van Maerlant, Spieghel Historiael
West Flanders; c. 1325-1335
The battle of Roncevaux: Roland and his men chase the Saracens
Fol. 215r: min. (detail)

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THe evidence for your assertions, sir...

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I don't have a doctorate, I am merely a student of arms and armour. I have published a couple of articles, and have a couple of articles I am looking to publish on the topic. Unlike yourself, however, I am backing my statements by providing evidence and factual data to back my claim. Can you provide...

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http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredtexts/luttrellpsalter.html The style of the illumination shows that Sir Geoffrey commissioned the Psalter some time between 1320 and 1340. Assuming thats the case he should have used that money for some up to date armour. His armour was, in point of fact, reason...

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http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredte ... alter.html

The style of the illumination shows that Sir Geoffrey commissioned the Psalter some time between 1320 and 1340.

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Also look at the Luttrell Psalter...There is a great picture of Geoffrey on horseback getting his helm from his wife and it is a visored Sugarloaf... IIRC this is circa 1340...I am currently building a suit to match...Something about the helm and the aillettes appeal to me... Your about 60 years of...

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I think I would push the timeframe about 10-20 years in either direction, as in, maybe circa 1280-1350. There are certainly at least one late 14th century example in a German effigy.

The Romance of Alexander has some as well, mid 1340's, which helps extend the date a bit.

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Very Nice Josh!

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I have a pic of one from the Munich Treasury that is for an English Queen 1370-1380. Bit ostentatious for SCA usage though. Maybe this one? m Along those lines, there's also the crown of Margaret of York, though that may have been intended more as a votive crown than as a crown for Margaret herself...

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The art, and the interpretation of armour is, as Betus mentioned, 19th century, extremely dated, and highly suspect. We have zero indication of 'studded leather' armour existing, it is a poor interpretaion of brigandine work, and it is highly dubious, in the form it is interpreted, as being mid 14th...

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Well, I understand why you find it disturbing, yet it is a central theme of Medieval Catholic art, and it is important to understand the context of how it was viewed at that time, to have a decent understanding of the society that created the objects depicted.

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That looks Sweet, Clay!

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Josh, where are those illuminations from? The betrayal scene is just effing disturbing. I'm interested in an artistic sense as well as an armoring sense... I mean they've turned Peter into some weirdo who gets his kicks mounting grown men and slicing their ears with razors. Not to pick a nit, but t...

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I'll dig through my materials, and see what I can come up with. Not all the sallaries are mentioned in the Abbeville ordinances, they are sort of split between the St. Maximen de Treves, and the Abbeville, as are the details of equipment. IN regards to the pollaxe idea, what is commonly seen used by...

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A full harness isn't suitable for a coustillier, or an infantryman. Having a full harness would indicate functioning as a man at arms, which would indeed place him above a lot of work around the camp (and have him doing other duties, which probsably could not be well represented). A half harness wou...

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Definitely find a copy of Peterson, it ius usually $20 or less, and published through Dover, and it would be a key resource, comparitively inexpensive as armour books go. Also inexpensive is Chip Karcheski'es pamphlet on Conquistador armour and arms, which can be gotten through the Higgins Armory gi...

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Oops, I didn't see your input until after I typed my response, Chef. I know you are intersted in pre-colonial native cultures, if my memory serves me right. So, I'm not questioning your information at all, good sir. I was just tardy in my response. Thanks for the info. Chef, that makes a lot of sen...

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Central American biows were in no way 'powerful'. The entire warfare of the Aztexc Empire - the "War of Flowers", was to take captives to provide sacrifices for Huitzilipochtli, Tloc, and the rest of that fun Pantheon, lest the sun die and the world perish. In point of fact, while their we...

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Been reading an excellent book on the Conquistadors and find many references to a cotton armor that was developed by them for protection, yet more comfortable in the humidity of the equatorial climate. What little I could find information-wise was that this was a type of cotton gambeson. Any extant...

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We actually have numerous fragments of Roman mail made from bronze or "copper alloy" of some sort. Samples I can document have been found at Augsberg, Vize, Ouddorp, Newstead, Xanten, and Mandeure. (Source: The Journal of the Mail Research Society, Vol2 Number1) I've also read some refere...

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The Wallace sleeves are more likely to be 15th century. Unlike your example of butted mail, we have clear indications of armour being made for use in a Medieval context out of latten. In example, we have a specific list of armour items allowed to be made by workers of latten in Cologne, not to menti...

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Just to chime in on what Wade is saying - late 16th/early 17th century munitions armours are common, and 'affordable', and there commoness and their 'affordability' preclude people - at least any people with a modicum of intellegence, from forging them today trying to pass them off as authentic. It ...

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yeah read that this morning, and was also happy that they mentioned they are not planning on having them raised. Very cool That is only a good thing if they do a thorough archaeological examination of the site. If they don't, then it is only an interesting footnote in history, and someones anchor w...

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Yeah, we get it, you don't believe in him. Good for you. I'm just gonna flip you the bird for that one. I didn't say anything to suggest I was being snotty or condescending enough to deserve that reply. Keep your argumentativeness to the Off Topics please. Matthew: "Well, you could say that ab...

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I think it would be hard to either prove or disprove the existance of Jesus. The record is debateable, either way. Eventually it comes down to a matter of faith, IMO. I think whoever was holding that nail had faith in what the nail was from. -Aaron Not really. He is not only metioned in the letter ...

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I'm thrilled with the work Cat did, turing a sows ear into a silk purse.

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The reason the latin cross has the extension, is that is where the INRI (Jesus of Nazareth, "King" of the Jews as the Romans would have put it), which was nailed up to make an example of anyone claiming such a title in a Roman Province.

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John is of course correct. The easy differencing in visual impact is we know they have a St. Georges cross at the hoist in mid 15th century England, which is a holdover from the French wars, I believe. Standards are usually in livery colours, and bear badges, and a motto (sometimes, not always, and ...

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There are no extant banners pr standards from England from 1453-1483, just to start off with, unlike a small number of continental banners and standards. What have been posted so far are standards, not banners. Most of the WoR standards you see in modern art and reenactment are taken from an early T...

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That theory has been bothering me actually. These guys were not like you or I. The smells they dealt with on a daily basis were probably pretty near disgusting by our standards. The butchering of animals, decaying refuse, latrines on a hot humid day, and not to mention all kinds of smelly people ru...

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THat is indeed an Ernst Schmidt piece, circa 1900, give or take a decade, and labled as such, in the foyer of the Higgins museum. Isn't a 'forgery', any more than a modern piece made for a reenactor or collector is, above board, by a respectable armourer. Not a good example to look at, as it was ins...

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Both the original sallets posted are either definitely Flemish, or almost certainly Flemish in origin. The bottom one is the sallet of Phillip the Fair, which came to Spain with Phillip and his entourage in 1496 - the pomegranet crest is an allusion to Grenada's recent conquest by his in-laws.

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Do we have any idea if any changes were made when it was reconstructed? In pic 6, was the lance rest reattached upside down, or is there another piece missing? It is allegedly a lance rest, that was put on upside down. Please keep in mind the statue was re- cast in the 15th century, as it was damag...

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Just to add what I wrote on your other thread, the plates reverse their overlap within the defence, below the breastplate to the waist, then below the waist to the hem of the fauld. This is the standard method of construction in Brigandines 50-75 years later, and it forces the waist by reversing the...

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