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- Tue Apr 08, 2003 6:52 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century Armour sold at auction
- Replies: 18
- Views: 28
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Talbot: If I had to [b]guess on the other three from thr Guttman collection, which is very good provenance, they are probably later than the dates they purport to be. Probably ...
- Tue Apr 08, 2003 6:22 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: How common were painted bascinets?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 40
I don't know of any painted surviving examples either. We know from an English document cited in Ffoulkes "The armourer and his craft" that bascinets were being covered in cloth in London. Italian frescos sometimes show bascinets with non-metal colours, but it's impossible to say if it's paint or cl...
- Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:41 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: vermiculite
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6
- Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:13 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century Armour sold at auction
- Replies: 18
- Views: 28
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Chuck Davis: <B> Just look at some of the elements: - if it was a river find, why was the bottom edge so clean, and not rusted away at the line of holes for the lining? - speak...
- Tue Apr 08, 2003 6:07 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: annealing maille rings
- Replies: 8
- Views: 12
Go for the gas torch. It produces less scale than a forge and is a lot less messy. But make sure it's not one of the mini (pen size)ones. That's all I got and it's just too slow. I built a small forge on the ground last weekend from 3 bricks, fueled by wood and powered by a (vacuum cleaner) blower. ...
- Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:32 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: vermiculite
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6
- Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:20 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century Armour sold at auction
- Replies: 18
- Views: 28
Yes Joris, I think I would be. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/redface.gif Although I'm not sure if I should feel disappointed or relieved. At least a lot of stuff exists, even if we have little chance of ever seeing it. The cervellieres that turned up at auction recently were the first examples I ...
- Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:34 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century Armour sold at auction
- Replies: 18
- Views: 28
My suggestion is that you ask the auctioneers who sold them last to put you in touch with the buyers. If they won't help you, there is little chance that you'll have any way of tracking down those pieces in the near future, especially those sold recently. I can't believe there's a german bascinet wi...
- Sat Apr 05, 2003 7:59 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Anyone ever heard of Marburg Museum?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 9
Hi Doug, I spent over an hour searching the Marburg section in the Bildindex site to see what I could come up with. It seems that the Universitätsmuseum is the only one that has armour. Bildindex only pictured a few pieces, not including that visor. I did find this picture taken 1985; http://www.bi...
- Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:37 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Help Finding These Bascinets
- Replies: 37
- Views: 42
Raibeart, it seems to me that the bascinet did not develop until about the 1320's. Prior to this time they were still in the form of the cervelliere, which is basically a rounded bascinet without any sides. I can reference a globose/round top bascinet for the 1340's no problem, possibly as early as ...
- Fri Apr 04, 2003 6:42 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Help Finding These Bascinets
- Replies: 37
- Views: 42
Hi Doug, The three pictures all came from a person here on the archive. He sent them to me quite some time back and I sent them on to Patrick. I have some more pictures of it from someone else, but none publishing quality. I don't remember who sent them to me. That was before I started keeping good ...
- Thu Apr 03, 2003 4:35 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Request for image scan...
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13
- Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:44 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Bascinet in Valeria Museum, Sitten, Switzerland
- Replies: 3
- Views: 11
Yeah, Sion is in the area where the German and French parts of the country meet. I was there in 1997, before I got into armour, but was unable to get into the museum as it was closed when I was at the castle. I have researched that piece and have found it difficult to get anything other than old ref...
- Tue Apr 01, 2003 6:35 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Request for image scan...
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13
- Tue Apr 01, 2003 5:01 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Request for image scan...
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13
Steve, the German 'bildindex' site has a high resolution image of Burkhard von Steinberg here;
http://www.bildindex.de/fotos/mi/058/04/a/MI05804c05a.jpg
Erik
http://www.bildindex.de/fotos/mi/058/04/a/MI05804c05a.jpg
Erik
- Sat Mar 22, 2003 6:53 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Look what I found (pics)
- Replies: 3
- Views: 13
I don't know where abouts you live in OZ, but up here in Townsville we have suppliers to the mining and refinery industries. I can buy mill balls of 2, 3, 4, and 6 inch diameter, possibly other sizes also, for $1.00 a kg. Those in the picture are probably bearings. They'll cost you little if you can...
- Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:13 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Early Italian Bascinet
- Replies: 1
- Views: 10
- Fri Mar 14, 2003 4:24 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: An armour question for the live steel crowd
- Replies: 10
- Views: 35
The only requirement our group had was a helmet of 1.6mm or thicker and enough other protection to make yourself feel comfortable with your own safety. This no longer stands, and if the group starts up again the rules will need to be tightened, mostly due to the risk of litigation. The main danger i...
- Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:50 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Have you guys *seen* this?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 27
This guy seems to like armour. This helmet isn't bad either; http://www.jeffdeboer.com/portfolio/work19.html and a couple of others based on period helmets; http://www.jeffdeboer.com/portfolio/nw04.html http://www.jeffdeboer.com/portfolio/nw03.html http://www.jeffdeboer.com/portfolio/aw06.html http:...
- Tue Mar 11, 2003 11:30 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Stupid Question of the Day
- Replies: 10
- Views: 13
You can work many pieces of armour cold. For really complex work you can always take it to be normalised part way through. So far I have only worked cold and have made a few bascinets(from three pieces welded together) as well as shield bosses, two bucklers, a visor, a few rolled edges and am curren...
- Tue Mar 11, 2003 5:20 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 14th century fauld construction question.
- Replies: 3
- Views: 6
Matt, as there are no surviving 14th century faulds with external lames, your question is a bit difficult to answer. You may want to ask; "What was the common method used on early 15th century faulds, leather or sliding rivet articulation?" We know for a fact that articulation of faulds was commonly...
- Tue Mar 11, 2003 4:37 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: What kit to go with a globose-visored bascinet?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 30
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Klaus the Red: <B>Keep in mind that the great bascinet with a round-nosed visor began to be popular after 1400. It resembles the pre-1380 globose klappvisor at first glance, bu...
- Fri Mar 07, 2003 5:35 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: What kit to go with a globose-visored bascinet?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 30
Bob, given the topic referred to a German globose-visor bascinet, I think I was pretty safe in my reply. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif However, I am also not so sure of the demise of the globose visor with the introduction of the pigface. It seems that the Italians hung on to it for som...
- Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:48 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: What kit to go with a globose-visored bascinet?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 30
David, this thread is right in the period you're looking for; http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum4/HTML/002062.html You will find that the breteche was usual before about 1350, and the globose visor seems to have been used mostly between 1350 and 1375 or so. I think the corazzina is a bit late fo...
- Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:40 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Rivited Maille
- Replies: 13
- Views: 28
I use wedge rivets. Erik D Schmid recommended using 24 gauge (ca. 0.7mm)sheet to cut them from. I couldn't buy that around here, so I found that the steel used in a lot of older car bodies is about right. I use an old bonnet(hood) from a 1980? Ford Laser. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif I...
- Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:04 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Rivited Maille
- Replies: 13
- Views: 28
Firstly, I'm Erik Schmidt, not Erik D Schmid, so don't get yourself comfused. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif I'm just starting out with making riveted mail. I can't really tell you what is most historical, but it seems that 18 gauge is considered a pretty good general wire size for use i...
- Tue Mar 04, 2003 5:40 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Heat color
- Replies: 12
- Views: 10
This site has a colour chart;
http://www.westyorkssteel.com/Heat_Treatment/htchart.htm#top%20of%20page
http://www.westyorkssteel.com/Heat_Treatment/htchart.htm#top%20of%20page
- Tue Mar 04, 2003 3:53 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
- Tue Mar 04, 2003 3:45 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Heat color
- Replies: 12
- Views: 10
Hi Gocin, I've been researching this when starting out making mail recently and saved the useful information I found. I think Jean Paul has it right. The variation in colours refers to the surface colour of the steel that remain after heating, not the glowing colour produced during heating. Below is...
- Sun Mar 02, 2003 11:22 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
- Fri Feb 28, 2003 10:49 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Living steel?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 9
I don't know about 'living steel', but 'live steel', preferrably called 'metal weapons' is historical reenactment of armed combat using blunted metal weapons. The swords are made to the same weight and size as the real thing, but the fighting is much more controlled. The shots are 'pulled', meaning ...
- Fri Feb 28, 2003 2:00 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
Some pictures would be great. I have pictures taken of it by a couple of other people already, but I'd love to see some different angles. When I wrote to the museum for information they said they had no available pictures of it as far as I recall, and I'm just too far away to visit. http://www.armou...
- Thu Feb 27, 2003 8:34 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: raising a pigface
- Replies: 10
- Views: 24
- Wed Feb 26, 2003 6:44 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
Flonzy, I don't know about the shape or hinges. I have never seen indications of hinges on splints, but given the nature of splint armour it should be flexible enough so as not to require hinges. Logan, here are a couple; Splint going over elbow and shoulder; http://www.bildindex.de/fotos/mi/023/08/...
- Wed Feb 26, 2003 1:36 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
Elbow cops. Well, none of the effigies have them. I have only found them on the knight at the Levitic pews from Verden cathedral, who also sports some pretty good arm protection, including small spaulders, splint upper(of the type descibed above) and lower cannons and elbow cops. It's dated 1360-70....

