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- Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:23 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by flonzy: <B>Erik You nailed what I am going for exactly. I have a few more questions. Thought the upper cannon and elbow cop very rare what do the few shown look like? The jupon...
- Tue Feb 25, 2003 8:00 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
- Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:02 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
Gibert, I would also like to see that effigy, sounds interesting. Unfortunately, it is unlikely to be of any help when dealing with Germanic armour of this period as it was very different from the English style. Flonzy, you have chosen a time of transition between the CoP and early breastplates. I h...
- Sat Feb 22, 2003 6:03 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: bascinet thingies (for lack of better word)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 9
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evil_Merlin: ... and the 50 cents one are more authentic... </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> On what do you base that assertion? Personally I think the price looks to be reflected in t...
- Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:09 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Test of tallow soap to prevent rust on maille...
- Replies: 26
- Views: 34
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by montecristo: an iron Pourbaix diagram can be found here: http://www.voltaicpower.com/Thermo/images/ironE-1.gif (for basic conditions) The site it belongs is here [/B]</font><HR...
- Fri Feb 21, 2003 6:52 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Test of tallow soap to prevent rust on maille...
- Replies: 26
- Views: 34
I would like to clarify one thing, which may be of some use. Or then again, maybe not. Soap is a form of 'surfactant', a nice word coined from the two words 'surface' and 'actant'. The one characteristic of surfactants that makes them so useful is the water/fat solubility polarity of the molecules. ...
- Tue Feb 11, 2003 6:50 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: When was the globose visored bascinet fashionable?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 44
The center mount is what characterises the klappvisor. Globose or flat visors where in use throughout Europe before the pigface came to be. There are so few representations of them left, that it's hard to say if there were strong regional differences in the overall shape. The center mounted types te...
- Tue Feb 11, 2003 3:57 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 1350 knees and elbows?
- Replies: 1
- Views: 14
If using Germanic examples from around 1350, the knees often have three very deep vertical flutes. They are usually very bulbous and without fans or articulation. The elbows, well, when they are actually there, can be in the form of small cups, round discs or similar to the later large and deep form...
- Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:35 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: When was the globose visored bascinet fashionable?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 44
The best area to portray with such a visor is Germanic, where they were common, but you could also do north Italian and some other areas if you can find proof of their use. Typically, I see the globose klappvisor as being in use into the late 1370's, at which time the pigface comes into use. By the ...
- Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:51 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Test of tallow soap to prevent rust on maille...
- Replies: 26
- Views: 34
Thanks for posting that Steve. How will you apply the soap next time so that it's won't rinse off on dipping in salt solution? The use of tallow soap to protect the mail would be something like using a wax to do the same. Any reason to favour the soap over wax? Careful Steve. Whatever you do, don't ...
- Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:22 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Raised bascinet - progress pics
- Replies: 26
- Views: 56
- Thu Feb 06, 2003 5:26 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: New Web Page - integral vs separate coifs at Hastings 1066
- Replies: 6
- Views: 0
- Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:31 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Spring steel chainmail ?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8
I have a suggestion that may help you, but no, I don't know how long the cutters will last. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/frown.gif You could get your spring steel wire annealed(softened), then wind, cut and weave before getting it re-tempered to become spring steel again. Your cutters will not w...
- Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:23 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Norwegian buckler (somewhat spiffy), pics.
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2670
- Tue Feb 04, 2003 4:42 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Patterns for 14th cent german legs?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 24
- Tue Feb 04, 2003 4:39 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Spring steel chainmail ?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8
- Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:49 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: What I've been Working on. (pics)
- Replies: 13
- Views: 17
- Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:19 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: What I've been Working on. (pics)
- Replies: 13
- Views: 17
You seem to have great skill in forming the shape. The curves on the 'Norman' one are very beautiful. What thickness of metal are you using? From the look of the polish one it looks to be quite thin. I hope you're going to replace those screws with rivets. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif ...
- Wed Jan 29, 2003 5:41 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Norwegian buckler (somewhat spiffy), pics.
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2670
- Sun Jan 26, 2003 6:39 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th century Knightly armor/dress, layer by layer. need some
- Replies: 15
- Views: 21
I'm not in the SCA. I am in a metal weapons group which uses pulled blows, but I haven't gotten to the stage of having a full kit yet, so I don't fight. Most of the metal weapons fighters I know use a very thin padded gambeson under the mail, mostly to stop rubbing from the armour. That is not to sa...
- Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:11 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th century Knightly armor/dress, layer by layer. need some
- Replies: 15
- Views: 21
The first breastplate over lentner(coat armour) I have seen is that of Walther von Hohenklingen from 1386, which is out of your period. There is no indication of anything being worn between the mail hauberk and either the coat of plates or the breastplate with fauld, the former being replaced by the...
- Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:03 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th c. German Harness -vs- the rest of Europe
- Replies: 19
- Views: 76
Derek, from the link you give, are you talking about the knee cops on their own, pictured just below the full arms set, or the articulated ones pictured between the pigfaces? The ones on their own suffer the same problem of having those flared upper and lower edges. The ones pictured lower down are ...
- Tue Jan 21, 2003 11:13 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th c. German Harness -vs- the rest of Europe
- Replies: 19
- Views: 76
Aha, hiding at the bottom of the page. I would love to see some sort of evidence for such knee and lower leg defences for 14th century Germanic. The knees are nothing like the ones I can find, the problem being those flared upper and lower edges, which just don't seem to show in period art. I have a...
- Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:25 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: My attempt at riveted mail, pics
- Replies: 25
- Views: 17
Gawain, I have finally managed to sort something out with the getting wire. A wholesaler called White's Wires supplies 1.25mm black annealed tie wire to just about any of the retailers. You can't get it direct, but they supply to Bunnings, Mitre 10 and Metalcorp. It's just that most of the retailers...
- Tue Jan 21, 2003 8:58 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th c. German Harness -vs- the rest of Europe
- Replies: 19
- Views: 76
Just to be picky; The bascinet is the helmet itself, and it's shape is not related to it's visor and is something you should be considering in it's own right. The visor could be mounted in the klappvisier style of the Germanic regions with the single brow mounted hinge, or as was common elsewhere, m...
- Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:05 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th c. German Harness -vs- the rest of Europe
- Replies: 19
- Views: 76
- Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:00 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th c. German Harness -vs- the rest of Europe
- Replies: 19
- Views: 76
Derek, the period you chose gives you quite some choice of armour. We know from Museum pieces that armour such as bascinets was being imported from Italy, but we ofcourse can't tell from art or effigies what is of local or international manufacture. Another thing to remember is that the Holy Roman E...
- Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:16 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th c. German Harness -vs- the rest of Europe
- Replies: 19
- Views: 76
- Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:04 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Barrel Tumbler?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 14
I think that idea has come up a few times already, and it's sounds great. Like a motorised compost tumbler. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif A few weeks ago I tumbled a piece of rivited mail I made in a jar of sand to see if it would shine it up, but it did very little in over 15 minutes o...
- Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:33 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Is it just me...
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10
Not only is the helmet very uneven, it has a totally incorrect shape for a bascinet. I notice that the vervelles, which are too long and made of too thin a material anyway ,to compare with period examples, seem to be attached to the brass strip, instead of being attached to the helmet and passing th...
- Sat Jan 11, 2003 7:13 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Riveted Maille tools
- Replies: 3
- Views: 6
You might be referring to this post;
http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009056.html
There are some useful links about half way down.
Erik
http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009056.html
There are some useful links about half way down.
Erik
- Mon Jan 06, 2003 6:00 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Riveted maille.. to temper or not to temper?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8
This is the way I do my rings, except I anneal large numbers of rings at once with a torch. I don't know if an oil lamp will get the metal hot enough to anneal it and also, if it does, the rest of the ring will draw the heat out very quickly and possibly reduce the effectiveness of the annealing pro...
- Mon Jan 06, 2003 4:24 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Vervelles ~ How many to install?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 12
If you are trying to emulate period examples, the number you use will depend on the type of bascinet you have and the time period you are trying to portray. The earlier bascinets with tube vervelles have around 10-16, whereas the more conical type of bascinets, made after about 1380, had the stud ty...
- Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:24 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Mantova Collection?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 8
Does it still exist? I have never looked into this as the armour is past the time of my main interest, but it seems to me to be connected with the "S. Maria della Grazie", also known as the "Santuario della Madonna della Grazie". There's a collection catalogue for the "Museo Diocesano di Mantova, Le...
- Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:57 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Riveted maille.. to temper or not to temper?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8
You may have trouble getting Iron wire. I use tie wire, which is a very soft steel wire. It has only a little carbon and therefore will not become so hard like your spring steel. Your problem with the punch breaking the metal could have a few different causes. 1/ Your punch could be too big. 2/ The ...
