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Erik Schmidt

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Magmaforge: I would recommend getting a hold of Dr. Lacy's text "The Development of the Coat of Plates." Can someone give more specific info on where to find this SCA publicati...

Erik Schmidt

By "Lines are most similar to French around the turn of the century" I assume you mean 1380-1400 high point with straight back. How straight is the back of the bascinet? If it is very straight or leans back, then it is only really appropriate for the period 1380-1400. However, if the back curves in ...

Erik Schmidt

Mykaru, what type of highpoint do you have? What year are you trying to represent? Ernst, that first link is new to me. I have an image from it already, but had no idea where I had it from. Now I know, thanks. Cet, I think Mykaru was asking about different visors for a high point bascinet, not diffe...

Erik Schmidt

Thankyou David for sharing those pictures. It's a pity about that cage, but without it there may not have been anything left worth photographing. The drawing certainly helps a lot. I love the visible detail, such as the rivet heads on the forearm splints and the lacing which ties the upper arm prote...

Erik Schmidt

I don't see where the confusion lies. The Edge and Paddock image clearly shows the cloth cover going up to the leather band on the vervelles. The vervelles are covered and cannot be seen, but that thick edging is certainly along the line of the vervelles, away from the helmet edge as seen at the top...

Erik Schmidt

That rail spike hammer is just what I need.
Thanks for the inspiration Sasha.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

I would love to say hello if I get to Cologne.

I will give you all the help I can, but I too have a lot to learn.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

I would love to get any pics of 14th century stuff.
That would be great if you could host them Wade. It would certainly be easier on Morgan.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

Arland, the original visors were attached with a fairly standard hinge system by about the 1370's. It consisted of two pins with a broad head and narrow shanks which were attached to the helmet. The pins went through the hinge on the visor, through two wide holes which had two narrow slits at the to...

Erik Schmidt

Oooooohhhh!! Now you're talking Vallconnan. I would love too see the effigy of Graf Gottfried von Arnsberg, and I probably will go there in the next two years or so, but for now pictures will do. Since I am intending to write a book on the subject of 14th century Germanic armour, I would be happy to...

Erik Schmidt

Steve, there are a few examples which suggest that they were held closed, but there are also many that have no indication of any closing method. There are a couple of the globose klapps as well as at least one pigface which have a "hook" like projection at the bottom edge, which may have served to h...

Erik Schmidt

I don't know where you guys get some of your information from, but it's all plain speculation. I would like to see you back it up with proof. Signo, your statement "Bacinet's visor is never locked close to the helm with hook's or straps" will need very strong proof, as you used the word 'NEVER'. Now...

Erik Schmidt

You haven't narrowed your time period to a specific date? As you're going for the earlier style globose visor, you will want to read this post; http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum4/HTML/001474.html if you haven't already. In it I describe the characteristics of the style of the bascinet and visor...

Erik Schmidt

Hi Pietro, firstly, there is a big difference between the roundnose/globose type and the pigface. The term klappvisier denotes the fact that it is hinged centrally at the brow as opposed to being hinged on the sides. The pigface shape is the same as the pigface/houndkull style sidemounted, except it...

Erik Schmidt

William, it is not known exactly when the #13 and #14 were each made, and the #13 is generally given an earlier date than the #14. The #14 style was certainly in use in the last quater of the 14th c. as shown in effigies of the time, but the #13 style has, to my knowledge, not been positively identi...

Erik Schmidt

I don't know how to do this with mail, but I have found that a light sand with a fine(not unltra fine) grit sandpaper to dull the surface followed by wiping on some wax gun polish brings out a dull steel look.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

The Churburg #14 was not fitted with a fauld, given there are no rivet holes for it's attachment. The Hohenklingen effigy of 1386 is shown with a breastplate similar to the #14, and the effigy is without fauld. As for an estimate of when the uncovered metal breast and back with fauld first came into...

Erik Schmidt

To answer your question Owain, first we have to establish when the matching backplate came into use and what you define as a breast and back. Do you include covered breastplates with that? Also, what kind of fauld? Covered or external lame type? Fauld on front and back? It is thought that most of th...

Erik Schmidt

I can solve your "gap" dilemma no problem. There is ample evidence of bascinets in use in Scandinavia, Germany and Italy, around 1375, which have extended cheek pieces. The cheek section of the helmet extends sufficiently far forward on some of them to close the gap left by a klappvisor. The aventai...

Erik Schmidt

Otto wrote; "First, would the back point or the onion top bascinet shown on this site be more appropriate for a globose klappvisor in 1375?" No! You should go for a shpae similar to the one shown with the "roundnose visor". The oniontop(ogival) shape seems to be very late 14th c., by no means typica...

Erik Schmidt

Mann, J. G. "Notes on the Armour Worn in Spain from the Tenth to the Fifteenth Century." in; 'Archaeologia' Journal of The Society of Antiquaries of London 1933 Vol. 83 pages 285-305 While you're at it this article may also be useful; Mann James G. "Notes on the Evolution of Plate Armour in Germany ...

Erik Schmidt

Short answer is, Yes.
Spanish armour was more like Italian, with less plate and mostly mail, especially on the limbs.
There is an old journal article with a little info, but I haven't read it in a while.
Would you like the reference?

Erik

Erik Schmidt

Thanks Otto, it's a good site.
I've had a bit of a look at it before.
If you go to this page; http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/manuscrits/amanuscrit.htm
you will see the manuscripts listed and the century from which they are from (ie. when made).

Erik

Erik Schmidt

This thread has some good info and pics http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum4/HTML/001302.html Give it a go. Quite a few people on the AA have been making them lately. You can always ask if you have more questions. You'll learn as you go. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif Erik

Erik Schmidt

You must make a period suspension liner! It is sewn into the helmet through all those little holes you see along the edge.
The liner is not hard to make, and is very cumfortable.

Make the liner, then the aventail.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

Otto, I know the bascinet you mean now. It's originally from the Churburg collection. The dates given for it vary, anything from 1380 to 1400. The armouries guidebook from a few years back dates it 1390. It actually has 37 breaths(in regular lines) on it's right side. I don't see why a skilled armou...

Erik Schmidt

I spent about 3 hours today going through the manuscript site Otto linked to above. I found 8 manuscripts with military themed miniatures from the 14th century. You can browse it by theme as well as getting full information for each manuscript, including a bibliographic listing. Lots of pictures on ...

Erik Schmidt

Thanks Otto, I hadn't come across that Dutch site before, but it's been a while since I searched for manuscripts. The intro they have suggests the site has a lot of info and pics. It's aimed at scholarly research! http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif Which bascinet is it that you can date to 1...

Erik Schmidt

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by chef de chambre: Hi Guys, after all, if we sat around waiting for someone else in the community to do it, we might be waiting indefinitely. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Too ...

Erik Schmidt

Otto, I have sent you a scan of a page in the Mann article which shows three images which illustrate well what I mean. The term covered breastplate is fairly broad. The link you give is to a form of covered breastplate often referred to as a Corazzina. I differentiate by them being split up the fron...

Erik Schmidt

Yes, I am basing "my" theory on out of date information and limited resources...way too limited. I annoys me no end. I agree fully that I should be able to back up my assertions fully if I were presenting a paper, but I am not. I'm using the information I have gathered so far, more information than ...

Erik Schmidt

Which museum in Rome was it? Were the rivets put into every one of the small holes? If not, then I guess it was meant to be stitched through the holes, and the rivet and leather method was a later alteration. I think bascinets of the 14th century were somewhat unusual because the liner was stitched ...

Erik Schmidt

"Are you certain of this? Walter von Hoenklingens effigy where the breastplate can clearly be seen , albeit a decade later, is clearly in the form of an uncovered breastplate." I am! Both von Hoenklingen and the statue of St George from Freiburg clearly show uncovered breastplates, but as you say, t...

Erik Schmidt

Brutus, I haven't found any evidence for when or how commonly the segmented breastplate was in use, but I can't see why it can't be justified for around 1365-1385. Coat of plates is fine, but if you want to portray an up to date man-at-arms after about 1365 you should go for the covered breastplate....

Erik Schmidt

Excellent! I have seen the first one you mention from a line drawing. I mentioned it in a previous post; http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum4/HTML/001302.html I think quite a few people would like to see that picture, me included. That second one sounds interesting too. Is it on his sword hand? C...