The Armour Archive

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Alcyoneus,

Is the image you refer to?

http://home.adelphi.edu/sbloch/sca/tent ... tent.1.gif

It is from King Rene's Book of Love.

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Here is another.

http://www.lib-art.com/imgpainting/2/2/ ... emalle.jpg

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Here is another canopy of state with a curtain inside.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24364447@N05/2335152346/#/

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Steve,

Your argument for vertically oriented tongues and grooves is compelling.

Do you ever consider retrofitting your hoop with them? You could make the tongues as splines, and glue them into slots. It would be a relatively quick job with a router or a table saw.

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I believe what we are seeing on the inside of the tent is an iron curtain rod, and there is a separate hoop between it and the valence. The upper edge of the hoop is hidden by the curtain rod. The curtain rod is supported at widely separate points, to allow the curtain rings to slide along it. We o...

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Of the thousands of tents in medieval and renaissance illustrations which have come down to us, only a tiny number show ropes at an angle that would actually support the canopy. Some artists show ropes, but not at a suitable angle to stretch the canopy. These artists could just as easily have shown ...

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Kilkenny wrote: we can't see any spokes removed and stacked anyplace or being carried off to the wagons.

Unless that's what is on the back of the mule in the upper right.

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I'd looked at the canopies, but wasn't sure if that wasn't pushing it. I'm not sure that a hoop tent would be the best bet for bad weather, thoughts? I have tested my models in a simulated wind storm provided by a couple of fans. The results lead me to believe that a ridged hoop is very strong in t...

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Steve, The tongue and groove thing you suggest sounds good. What do you think about making the T and G go the other way? That is to say, in the horizontal plane instead of the vertical. That would preclude any possibility of the segments shifting vertically, and the last segment would be held in pla...

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I would like to call attention to the canopy over the Virgin in this painting by Petrus Christus. Cool picture, find, Mac! This canopy looks very much like the roof of my tent! :) Steve I believe that bed canopies and canopies of state are valuable analogies to tent canopies. If you were going to h...

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Steve, How long are the pins which connect your frame pieces together? Are they long enough that they are loaded in bending, or are they really just long enough to keep the segments aligned? Had you considered (and rejected) making the pins as an integral extension of the frame segments? I wonder if...

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Thank you Steve! I made a few 1/12th models about two years ago. I find that they behave very like full sized tents, and are a very valuable tool. I you, or anyone else are interested I can try to figure out how to post some pics of them. Most of my pics are too big to post here, and I am not geek e...

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I would like to call attention to the canopy over the Virgin in this painting by Petrus Christus.

http://www.oceansbridge.com/oil-paintin ... husianmonk

Its shape is the result of hoop. If canopies of state are made this way, than surely canopies of pavilions can be made similarly.

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I found a smaller picture of one of my models. this is the one-man tent, or arming pavilion. The swoop in the canopy and the walls was achieved by curving the long seams.

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Steve,

That's a nice tent frame!

Do you find that holding the segments together with a single pin allows too much play? It seems to me that they might tend to rotate a bit with respect to each other. Or, is this just not an issue?

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Charlotte et al,

The canopy can certainly be made to have that "Hershey's kiss" shape by making the edges of the panels curved.

I have done this in some of my models.

I will post a picture if I can figure out how to get around the ridiculous size limits of this forum.

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Unfortunatly I don't have the facilities for a bead roller..... Graham, You should, rather, count yourself fortunate that you do not have a bead roller. This is your opportunity to learn to do it the right way. You will end up the better for it! Resist the temptation to try to do it with a shaped p...

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Fire Stryker, I don't think that the ground was ever colored. I think it was left white; with the resulting effect being like a painted ivory or alabaster carving. Some of the areas that were colored are broader than engraved lines, and thus subject to wear and abrasion. I think that a colorant base...

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Ingvarr wrote:I count four alive and two on the ground. This is like Where's Waldo?

Quite so! I missed the guy on the extreme right, with the (axe? hammer?) and the other deader under the horse on the right.

I have not yet found Waldo. Have You?

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I'm sure that there were dozens of ways that this sort of thing was done historically. A thing which has just come to mind is the color in the carvings of the bone covered saddles of the 15th c. It is said to be colored wax. I personally suspect that it is something harder than wax, perhaps some sor...

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I used a black crayon on my last project :oops: Chris. Engenulf, I don't think there's any reason to be embarrassed about using a crayon. It's basically wax and black pigment. If you felt dirty about letting Crayola assemble the ingredients for you, you could mix your own lamp black in bee's wax. A...

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Donnagal, That's a great image! Thanks for posting it. It looks like the guys with the weird pointy basinetts are from Landshut. With hats like that, I would have guessed that they were supposed to be from some place more outlandish than that; like Turkey, or perhaps Mars! I wonder how literally we ...

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Interesting that no one is wearing gauntlets... :shock: Gregoir, I hate to be known as the sort of guy who shouts the battle cry of the Laurel ("No! You're wrong!"), but you might have another look at that image. Although most of them have bare hands; I count four men wearing gauntlets. T...

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[quote="Enrique Page"]
.....By the way, we speak Spanish here :P
/quote]

All my Argentine tanguero friends insist on calling it "Castillano", and will lecture me about it if I forget and say "Spanish." An uppity lot, these tangueros...no?

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Has anyone ever done that here, posted pics of "Their" armour they "Worked long and hard on" and then someone recognizes it as someone else's work and exposes them, with proof? I haven't heard or read anyone doing that with Kirby's work. But a few years ago, in the Southeast, so...

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Oskar, In order to make armor you must do two things...... First, you must understand the body and how it moves. Only then can you understand how to cover it. Then, you must also look carefully at the armor our ancestors made, for they have solved the problems already. .....You have begun looking at...

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Gentlemen,

I am going to be out of town, and away from my resources for a week or so. When I get back, I will take a couple of hours, and try to make sense of my notes and wright something for you.

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I shall read read a few pages tonight, in his memory.

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Finnican, I think you are onto something here. I have seen about eight or ten period recipes for etching mordants. Most of them appear to be pastes. Many of the recipes call for some pretty nasty nasty corrosives, but a couple of them are not too scary. I'll see if I can find my notes, if anyone is ...

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Petroleum jelly maybe? Ferric chloride and petroleum jelly is what's in soldering paste: the brown stuff that used to come in cans, but now is marketed in small plastic tubs. I've never tried to etch with it, but I have used it for browning. It works for that, but the results are a little on the gr...

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Joseph, It is good to let the armorer take the measurements him self. If you can not arrange this, you should take the measurements he asks for. It is best to do this during a phone conversation, to minimize misunderstandings. In either case, you should follow this up with several fittings in person...

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Cian, Please relax and enjoy your meal! The pewter we use is food safe. It is the same material that is used by all modern makers of pewter vessels, and it is commonly accepted for use in serving and eating. These foodsafe pewters usually contain tin, antimony, and copper, and neither the antimony n...

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Sean,

If you want to put up the molds as well that would be fine. Could you make the whole shebang be labeled www.billyandcharlie.com ? We want folks to know how to find us.

Thanks!

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Cian,

Have you tried the link? Marianne thought it should work even if you are not on Facebook, but we don't have a way to test that hypothesis.

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Chris, Darian, Earnest,

Thanks !

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