The Armour Archive

Mac

Those are some serious hammer marks.

It may be that you could smooth off the corners of your hammer a bit more and save your self trouble down the road. Have you got a pic of the hammer?

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There are some images in this thread on the VikingSword forum that might be of interest. About 2/3 of the way down the page, there is a pic of a mace which has lost a flange, and the slot in the haft is open for examination.

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My understanding of a typical construction of flanged maces is this... --The haft is a tube of steel. --Slots are cut in the end of the tube to accept the flanges --The flanges have grooves along the lengths of their bases which allow them to fit the slots into the handle slots. --After the flanges ...

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Since we talked about bowing cotton earlier in this thread, I thought I would link to my new Pinterest page on cotton bows . https://i.pinimg.com/564x/84/36/a2/8436a2c3db417d5cd63c800e5369028f.jpg This tool is an Attribute of St James the Lesser, and images of him will sometimes show handsome exampl...

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Have a look at the weights of these helmets at the Met. They are listed down in the object details. https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/24809?&searchField=All&sortBy=Relevance&deptids=4&when=A.D.+1400-1600&where=Italy&od=on&ft=helmet&offset=0&rpp=20&pos=10 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/c...

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The can structure however I've made out of 13 gauge.. That's way too heavy. Remember, that twice as thick is not twice as stiff: it's eight times as stiff. Even at orange heat, that will be difficult to move, and your repousse will be at room temperature. I most strongly advise you to cut your loss...

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Try this... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bnGvxBr_t_Czk5Pe1q_KVaPfgkQjPd1rAZMwx5DapDMsY5etgGLlkDoHlEgAdJ8BEp_RcTo1mUh6Q1-zTNH7T-enQ8DusqIywK1jxdFqr5fBWI_B-gCLRMccVwxhI53ThIQiq4gQGuSgIBsEmVcPlJDqKM4odva5N58Q7SyXG_KRx6fJXPk7csKmX1qJVXH2queHW27dNh1vyjAV_He3HD-y0DyTKuIsrPbycHJPpecMmU650hjfHm-Ttwjc5r...

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Christian,

A denser version of that image is here.

Which other ones do you need?

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In my experience, the underlap on the hinge side will also (somewhat) limit the amount the inner plate will normally close. But the extension(s) is/are flexible, so the inner plate can be pushed in past its natural stop. I'm not sure why I neglected to mention this part..... a "senior moment", perh...

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One more thing about hinge side overlap - how to attach hinges then (I want to make hinges outside of vambrace)? Should I make them with one part lower than the other to compensate different levels of plates, or maybe use some kind of washer to raise hinge a little over underlapping part? (I hope y...

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Hi again, I have a question about these: http://www.allenantiques.com/A-186.html Is it just me, or vambrace plates overlaps on hinges side? It is typical and normal for the plates of vambraces to overlap on the hinge side. If they do, what about buckle side, is it overlapping as well? Which plate i...

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In my opinion even the best of the modern repoussé artists often don't get the overall form of their armours quite right. The decoration can be exquisite but if the overall form is off it diminishes the result. I can understand the desire to rush through the boring forming parts to get to the juicy...

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Another factor in that decision is that if i wanted to chase the helmet itself I'd probably have to start with much thicker material which actually really seems like not as much fun and something I want to avoid for my first project haha. For a project like this, I might use 16ga. That's a bit ligh...

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Here is the relevant diagram from Blair's monograph on the armor. “The Silvered and engraved Armour of Henry VIII in the Tower of London”, Claude Blair. Archaeologia 1965. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7dXhQu4QUaHUvYhdvoyS9q_sY2VfejjUREqyPhiGYcYlNrSW_gSQnKEtSY5SLngfTtA5lGm6bGXLU4zdgRP35UuZp8zIof...

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Speaking of tips for O/A, do you guys ever use rosebud tips for spot heating? I use a rosebud most of the time for helmet work. The instructions that came with the Harris torch said not to use the pilot light feature with multiple orifice tips. At first, I took them at their word, and used the rose...

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and my welding teacher, who has made all the forges/foundary furnaces and well.. pretty much everything else in the school.. said making a similar design to the eric thing forge would be no problem, in fact, a student years prior had made one right here in the shop back in 2014/15 in the Experiment...

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It seems I'll be able to have the best of both worlds, I found an 18-5 for 75$ on ebay ( :) Oh! Excellent score! I just looked it up on "sold listings". It looks like it's in respectable shape. The fitting which holds the tips is not the one I expect, so that part may not be Harris, and might not a...

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I ended up breaking up the horizontal seam line like had been done in the Palazzo Ducale bascinet but then in the paper form made it into one straight line to hopefully simplify welding. Trying to make a two piece upper cone with a curved top kind of forces the middle of the bottom seam, where the ...

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Another question is about spot heating. After a bit of digging (found the eric thing forge suggestion) it seems that both mac and wade use o/a for that all? What kind of set up is that? My teacher had mentioned this hanging system for the torch to kind of idle the flame but it was so vague I can't ...

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If you try it with pitch, you are going to need punches. They can be had from jewelry supply places, but they are not exactly cheap, and most of the ones in a set will not be what you need. But, take heart; as they are easy to make. You will need to get some hardenable rod stock. You can get drill r...

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Thanks guys. Does anybody use pitch to back up the steel when doing the ropes and scales and such details ? I've always used a shaped tool on the inside, and careful hammering on the outside. I don't think there is any reason not to use pitch. Indeed, "pitch and punches" is probably a more versatil...

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That's looking nice!

Careful not to get too far into the the edge decoration before the shaping is done.

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There is another path you can take here. You could work up the shape of the can over a three dimensional sculpture, rather than a plywood buck. I've never done this, but here is how I envision it.... -Start with a 3D model of your head. -Sculpt the helmet over the head with some additive medium. -Cu...

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Have a look at my thread on the Palazzo Ducale bascinet. The build starts here on page 5, with the construction of a plywood "buck" to aid in the development of the can segments in cardboard.

Tell me if that helps to make any sense of the process.

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Okay I have fussed over this whole concept with my teachers and we're all a bit lost as to how to account for where/how the pattern is supposed to stretch to get the proper circumference needed when making the first conical core piece. In both the can 1 and 3 ideas, it looks like the initial cone h...

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Here's another link to some helmet's I was looking at that would maybe work as a base shape: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NF-Ew1BM19B5iMMecPAwpMSQYwpdWV2b The undisputed master of this sort of thing was Filippo Negroli. A Google image search for Negroli helmet . will bring up some stunning exa...

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There are any number of ways one might "can this out". Let's say that the helmet you are intending to be your repouse canvas looks like this. Note, that I am using a split front/back view on the right. These can be a bit confusing at first, but they save time and space in the drawing. https://lh3.go...

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John Vernier wrote:Interesting that MOL 87.13 has clearly been reassembled backwards. It's a real head-smacker!

But yet, the patina on the rivet matches.....

I wonder who has done this, and when. "I want his name, and I want him punished!"

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I tried so hard not to but it sort of happened :roll: I think we all do this... or a least I hope that's true, 'cause I've done it more than once. :oops: I would take a raising pass down the lower crest, starting as high up as my anvil horn would allow. It will really "test" the weld, but it's prob...

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I hope that you do not run into trouble for having sharpened up your lines too soon.

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- Tapes for taking height, breast, and waist measures which can be subdivided into quarters, thirds, etc. and used to draft the pattern on the cloth. I don't know what they used, but apparently the Spanish tailor's books recommend parchment; rag paper would also work. But how can I get pieces of pa...

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I can mig and I've honestly just started tigging, but I can do it with enough forgiveness, and my teachers, though they can't help me with anything armour related, can definitely guide me through something if I really do get stuck. There is a miller 210 and I believe a 185 or something smaller. The...

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Fundamentally what draws me to making armour is that I can combine function and hopefully have some artistic licence as what's seen in the 16th century italian parade armours. ...Also, articulations are really fascinating to me so my initial idea was to combine some form of chasing/repousse in the ...

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Yes it looks like the same belt, sword and purse, and all the rest of his clothing as well. And in the Arrest and the Caiaphas prints, the man's face is nearly identical, as if copied from the same study drawing. It's always intersting to see how complex compositions are put together from various b...

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It looks like Martin Schongaur included this same guy in other scenes of his Passion of Christ. Here is is arresting Christ, and wearing the same belt. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/14/df/cb/14dfcbb100fca01042266f6e45fd196a.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/67/c3/5b/67c35b351925baa100cf0e0547342b60.jpg .......

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