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- Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:49 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Documentation for leather jacks in 16th century?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2542
In the 16th century, a quilted fabric defence---might--- be augmented by a skin of leather as the outer layer to as many as 30 interior laters of fabric,. Another 16th century configuration is small plates (i.e. an inch square or smaller?) sewn inside, giving a characteristic stitching effect on th...
- Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:10 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Have you ever seen someone get knocked out
- Replies: 128
- Views: 4026
I KO'd a really large fellow at a war many years ago with a wrap. Solid to the back of his helm. When he came to, he would not believe the Marshal standing right there or me, but was sure some big guy had come up and hit him from behind. I don't know about brown outs. Some people I've hit have been ...
- Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:31 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Girl invasion - what to do?
- Replies: 46
- Views: 1658
Re: Girl invasion - what to do?
Now, given the fact that we don't have loaner armour (yet) and that all of them are students or working on the lower end of the food chain, what can I do to uphold their motivation and to get them to the point where they armour up (which from experience takes from 1/2 to 1 year in this area of the ...
- Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:06 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: my thoughts on the SCA and fighting. Any comments?
- Replies: 63
- Views: 1322
I would agree that a slicing movement would work very effectively, against unarmored opponents. It would do next to nothing against an armoured opponent in say a transitional harness. Chain makes quite a bit of difference (which is the standard for the SCA, whether actually worn or not) and even le...
- Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:06 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: my thoughts on the SCA and fighting. Any comments?
- Replies: 63
- Views: 1322
Wilmot, I have tried it and find it just isn't realistic. Nothing behaves like steel weapons no matter how hard you try and if someone was to attempt the same manuevers with rattan they would find them ineffective and probably kill themselves in the process. This is where you loose credibility with...
- Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:30 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: (SCA) Rules you didn't know you were breaking
- Replies: 141
- Views: 4678
I seem to recall the SEM responding to the hafting and body checking issue on this forum awhile ago saying there was no rule against either using your body against a haft or shield or using your haft against another opponent. The bottom line is what does the rulebook say on the matter? Non scriptus ...
- Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:26 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: (SCA) Rules you didn't know you were breaking
- Replies: 141
- Views: 4678
People making up rules or interpreting them strangely has always been a problem. Recently my husband said one way he keeps his basket hilt from twisting and breaking hose clamps as much is by drilling a tiny hole in the basket hilt flange and tapping in a tiny tack nail. Then he hose clamps over tha...
- Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:33 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: The Ultimate Rhino Hide
- Replies: 282
- Views: 7270
It totally befuddles me as to how folks that think that its impossible to call blows on someone else can ever train anyone? IMHO its IMPERATIVE for a trainer to be able to give commentary on the likelihood of it being good or not from just watching your students. I totally agree with Hovag. I've see...
- Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:43 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] Pre-fighting invocation?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 238
Re: [SCA] Pre-fighting invocation?
Been pondering this for a little while. We already do this before Crown Tournaments and some other combats, but why not make it general? A short, non-religious ceremony where all the combatants gather and reaffirm that we are here to fight to the utmost of our abilities, obey the rules, and keep ou...
- Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:52 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: No Square Pavilions???
- Replies: 13
- Views: 484
I don't know if that was a quote from me, but I've had input on this in previous "tent" discussions. I've to date never seen a rectangular or square tent with a single peak. I'm not sure I've seen one with sides that are completely verticle, as most are clearly sloped. I've seen some fairly square-l...
- Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:58 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Gauntlets for Rebatted Steel Fighting
- Replies: 13
- Views: 374
- Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:59 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: anything important in ... SAN DIEGO ?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 184
Yes, it was back in the '70's. It went from Balboa Park to Pioneer Park (also in North Park area) to Allied Gardens. It had recently moved to Pioneer park when I joined in 1978 because the fighters were tired of some really scummy non-fighters who would show up, but only could ride a bus. Basically...
- Wed May 11, 2005 4:05 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Female Fighter question...
- Replies: 48
- Views: 1848
Re: Charina Torso Pic
At 5'2", the Charina is just too long for my torso. This Charina is the last of my first armor. And I was a human pinata for years in it. This is a really important point. Many armorers make solid armors too long at the waist (for both men and women), but its more critical for people who are not as...
- Mon May 09, 2005 3:05 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Kingdom of Heavan...Thoughts?
- Replies: 114
- Views: 3341
I liked seeing the handsewn crosses on the Templar and Hospitaller surcoats. What was up with the funky thick shields with weird depressions on the Christian shields? The costuming was overall well done, the biggest OOP item I noticed was the Queen of Jerusalem and some of her ladies costumes, which...
- Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:54 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: German Lidded Beer Mugs
- Replies: 17
- Views: 314
There are some examples of 16th c ceramic steins with metal lids in several German museums, however there are very specific designs and colors appropriate to the period. Some of the originals were truly hideous to modern aesthetics. Sometimes replicas are sold in "medieval" towns like Rottenburg-au-...
- Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:08 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Female Fighter question...
- Replies: 48
- Views: 1848
But since 'tis your Lady -- start with a sufficiency of globose breastplate, in company with an athletic squishbra, and go outwards from there. If you start with completely rigid, domey breast protection, you won't have to add in mods to pass the Knight's-Marshallate's inspection. Actually many wom...
- Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:58 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] wow...
- Replies: 38
- Views: 1086
FYI - From the Society Marshal (b) Period Combat Studies: I ask the Board to approve the following proposal for allowing martial theatrical performances, demonstrations, and classes under Arts and Sciences auspices: YESSSS! I always argued that it should be under A&S. Now the Laurels will have cont...
- Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:20 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: An Invitation and Challenge for Josh Warren
- Replies: 91
- Views: 2922
My comment was just a silly joke about the sharpness of Jeff's real steel sword. It would be idiotic for anybody, no matter how skilled, to go up against that thing. Rattan bruises (and can kill the improperly armed, sure). The lucky shot with that steel can roll a head or cut off a foot. Hopefully...
- Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:16 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: An Invitation and Challenge for Josh Warren
- Replies: 91
- Views: 2922
- Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:52 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Spain after 1490 into 1500
- Replies: 15
- Views: 204
Re: Spain after 1490 into 1500
What would a Spanish "new world" explorer/sailor wear for both garb and armor? Though it was in 1540, there was an expedition of Captain General Francisco Vasquez de Coronado to search for the lost city of gold that went into New Mexico. Some friends of mine did a re-enactment for a New Mexico park...
- Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:26 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Help: Period Traction for Turnshoes?
- Replies: 41
- Views: 648
frauhirsh; Can you remember the source of the pic with the hobnails, sounds interesting? No, darn it, but it was one of those things that stuck in my brain... and some of us had been talking about portage and slippery grass and mud shortly before I found it, so I told them about it, but then I real...
- Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:46 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Help: Period Traction for Turnshoes?
- Replies: 41
- Views: 648
Tim, There was a 15th c woodcut I saw showing "vikings" portaging a boat along a river bank. Their boots were clearly shown with hobnails. I've seen this woodcut in more than one book on Vikings, so try going through your books on Vikings. Based on that, one might assume that 15th c folks would use ...
- Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:41 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Activity level of the Chivalry in your Kingdom?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 866
We have fighting practice at our house 2x a month, so my husband, Sir Arion is at those. We go to 2-3 wars per year, but our regular event attendence varies from about 4-8 tournaments a year depending on mundane activity. Neither of us fight in tournaments that much any more, but will sometimes figh...
- Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:36 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Center boss heaters?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 402
Re: Center boss heaters?
My husband uses one that was based off of some 15th c sources shown in a War of the Roses book (borrowed or I'd give exact pages). It seems to me they were German. His is curved.
The pictures posted were not the ones he used, so there are more sources out there.
-J
The pictures posted were not the ones he used, so there are more sources out there.
-J
- Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:32 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How many members of the Chiv are at your practice?
- Replies: 65
- Views: 1270
At our canton Tuesday night practice we always have at least one, my husband, Sir Arion Hirsch (because it is at our house). Occasionally Sir Galen has come by too. Because its an outdoor practice, and San Diego has been experiencing approx 3 times its normal rainfall, we've been rained out a lot, b...
- Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:40 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Timothy Of Arindale East KEM: Ruling On Helm Invulnerability
- Replies: 44
- Views: 1151
What is interesting is the only injuries I recall are small cuts to the face when someone's chin strap broke earlier, then they did not pull out, so after strap is gone, they get hit. Still, no significant damage. The only big injury I know of was a brand new female fighter in Corvus, who was hit as...
- Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:22 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: A small bounty to be gained at Gulf Wars
- Replies: 92
- Views: 1986
These are serious charges that not only question our chivalry, but frankly, if true have the potential for serious actions to be taken both within the SCA and from mundane authorities. Richard Blackmoore East Kingdom, KSCA If it is found to be true, I do hope the Order holds those accountable. I ha...
- Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:50 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Timothy Of Arindale East KEM: Ruling On Helm Invulnerability
- Replies: 44
- Views: 1151
- Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:28 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Timothy Of Arindale East KEM: Ruling On Helm Invulnerability
- Replies: 44
- Views: 1151
I find not allowing thrusts to the head outside of the face rather ridiculous and dangerous. Up until now I was unaware of such a convention in any SCA Kingdom. Seems really odd doesn't it? Especially since most of our injuries appear to be related to knees and ankles. I've been fighting wars on th...
- Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:29 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: why do people get the impression (sca)
- Replies: 59
- Views: 1465
I think a directed touch is one that has enough momentum to have hit my real face if I had no grill. Therefore, it can't be the end of the extension, nor incidental contact as it sweeps by. It must be a forward momentum. However, it could glance off my grill and still be good if the glance still tra...
- Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:40 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Wanted: Beginner A&S projects (SCA)
- Replies: 24
- Views: 281
Woodworking arts projects my husband and friends have made: wooden dice tops (there are three period styles I know of) - turned children's toys - carved animals, dishes, finger puppets, dollheads wooden waister daggers - turned Carved spoons trenchers wooden bowls - could be turned or carved stool t...
- Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:18 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: The Ultimate Rhino Hide
- Replies: 282
- Views: 7270
I had a few opportunities at Estrella where my blows were not called. Sometimes 6-7 blows from my spear at one individual. Last year there seemed to be quite a few like that. After awhile if they weren't taking head and body shots, I started having fun just trying to knock them down. Its a strange ...
- Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:26 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Thinking about the vikings
- Replies: 47
- Views: 760
Re: Thinking about the vikings
I have a lot problems when I look at the Vikings. The first problem is the name. As a word, "Vikings" didn't enter English until the late 18th or early 19th century (OED, also the book "The Vikings and the Victorians."). Mord. Broad categorization is pretty common. Aren't most "Medieval knights" de...
- Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:09 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Have We Confused Cavalry & Foot Equipment?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 579
Chef (and everyone else), I think (my limited research) shield size also varies as per region, with larger, longer shields persisting in Eastern Europe (Byzantium, Bulgaria, Romania, etc) for a much longer period of time. Do you have any info that might refute or corroborate the above? Alaric In th...
- Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:58 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Who is using rebated steel and full force combat?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 507
Like FrauHirsch said Adrian Empire and SCA culture are much the same, sword fighting in both groups is different than say AEMMA who study the historical manuals. Yup, and rarely do steel groups or the SCA really use "full force", even the ones that think they do. With rebated two handed thrusting w...
