I've been plowing through here for the last few hours. it's all in Russian, but a little help from babel fish solved that problem.. sort of.
http://museum.velizariy.kiev.ua/kiev/nimu.html#
the links down the left all take you to galleries for different museums. the top section is all across Russia as far as i can tell, the bottom is Europe, and I'm not sure about the middle.
hows about an example of the stuff that's buried in there,
http://museum.velizariy.kiev.ua/russia/kulic/index.html
just look at that lamellar, and how bout those inside out brigadine looking things. Awesome.
want something a little more unique?
http://museum.velizariy.kiev.ua/russia/ ... index.html
in this one there is some Chuchkee? hide armour and bone lamellar, also some wooden armour form north America. Pretty cool
Enjoy.
some awesome galleries
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some awesome galleries
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Is it not nifty? Worship the comic
Is it not nifty? Worship the comic
Whatever Діорама Києва часів Київської Русі is, I wish it had some context.
I'm diggin' that face helm pretty hard.
I'm diggin' that face helm pretty hard.
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Armourkris wrote:I've been plowing through here for the last few hours. it's all in Russian
Worse -- that's Ukranian
schreiber wrote:Whatever Діорама Києва часів Київської Русі is, I wish it had some context.
Diorama of Kiev in the Kievan Rus period
(roughly 10-13 cent)
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Norman wrote:Diorama of Kiev in the Kievan Rus period
(roughly 10-13 cent)
AWESOME.
I have a friend who chose to punish himself by adopting a Kipchak SCA persona, and he's putting armor together. Wants my help with the hat.
I ran into a picture of a similar looking helmet face on your site, actually. I assume this physical example would somewhat corroborate it, assuming he's from the western part of the confederation.
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schreiber wrote:Norman wrote:Diorama of Kiev in the Kievan Rus period
(roughly 10-13 cent)
AWESOME.
I have a friend who chose to punish himself by adopting a Kipchak SCA persona, and he's putting armor together. Wants my help with the hat.
I ran into a picture of a similar looking helmet face on your site, actually. I assume this physical example would somewhat corroborate it, assuming he's from the western part of the confederation.
Well, the diorama has nothing to do with the helmet.
Yes, the grinny face you see on the museum site is ...I think its most commonly classified as Bulgar (not the ones in Bulgaria - the ones on the Volga). Notice how its more "oriental" looking -- or at least that's how Russian arch look at it (the Lipovetz face has angular features, a big nose -- "Iranian" type features)
But my understanding is that the classifications are not so set-in-stone -- certainly acceptible for a Kipchak. The dates are about the same.
IMO - it could well be that the differences are artist or client preferences rather than real distinctions.
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