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Snowplow Helm

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:15 am
by dragonjohn
Morning All!

Haven’t been on in awhile, but I figured I'd get this posted before I scuff it up :twisted:

It's a build referencing an Osprey book The Knights of the Outremer.
This guy really doesn't have a distinct nationality and supposedly could have come from anywhere (which I kinda like) but definitely mid/ late 1100's, maybe a crusades tag along. Just wish I didn’t have to put a cage in it, ( pushed the nose out a little too much :cry: ) But I do like my head see’in is it’s the only one I got !

It's constructed of 14ga all the way around with 1/4 in on the grill. Hopefully will replace the mail with riveted soon.

Whatcha think?

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:22 am
by Destichado
This is out of my period, but I recall an account of a Norman lord (around the time of William II, iirc) who was thought to have fallen in battle. To prove he had not, he was forced to remove his helmet because its large nasal concealed his face.

That's the first thing I thought of when seeing your helmet.

The second was a line in Just Visiting: "Hello, Big Nose."

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:46 am
by Bleddyn De Caldicot
Destichado wrote:This is out of my period, but I recall an account of a Norman lord (around the time of William II, iirc) who was thought to have fallen in battle. To prove he had not, he was forced to remove his helmet because its large nasal concealed his face.

That's the first thing I thought of when seeing your helmet.

The second was a line in Just Visiting: "Hello, Big Nose."


That would be William the First at Hastings.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:08 pm
by es02
I'd leather-line your maille and extend it around with a flap to cover the front of your face to complete that look.

looks like your one or two small details away, keep it up :)

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:54 pm
by Finnvarthr Finnbogason
I second es02's comment. Line the mail with leather and add a flap to cover the lower face. That will complete the look and make the helmet really stand out. The leather lining will reduce the noise of the mail against the metal of the helmet. Looking good!

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:01 pm
by Donald St. Colin
I like it. Cover the bars with maille.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:30 pm
by Destichado
Bleddyn De Caldicot wrote:
Destichado wrote:This is out of my period, but I recall an account of a Norman lord (around the time of William II, iirc) who was thought to have fallen in battle. To prove he had not, he was forced to remove his helmet because its large nasal concealed his face.


That would be William the First at Hastings.


Truly?
A person and event so notable, you'd think I would have remembered. :oops:

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:56 am
by Uryen
Destichado wrote:A person and event so notable, you'd think I would have remembered. :oops:

It was a while ago, so the memory fades :wink:

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:09 am
by chef de chambre
Why do people have to come up with ridiculous lables for historical helmet styles? Is "Wide nasaled Norman helm" too much more difficult than "snowplow helm"?


The maker did a nice job, but I almost never would have known he made such a nice helmet, because I was entirely disinclined to click on the thread due to the title.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:50 pm
by JT
Besides which, if you know anything about trains, you'd know that it's a cow-catcher and not a snowplow. :P

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:48 pm
by Ernst
Unfortunately, the Osprey Warrior from which the inspiration for this helm is drawn doesn't give historic refernces like the usual MAA series does. I'd be careful using Osprey illustrations for inspiration without checking their interpretation.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:23 pm
by mattmaus
chef de chambre wrote:Is "Wide nasaled Norman helm" too much more difficult than "snowplow helm"?


It's at least 2 whole words and like 5 sylables longer your way.

That's a lot. A WHOLE lot.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:21 am
by Donald St. Colin
chef de chambre wrote:Why do people have to come up with ridiculous lables for historical helmet styles? Is "Wide nasaled Norman helm" too much more difficult than "snowplow helm"?


The maker did a nice job, but I almost never would have known he made such a nice helmet, because I was entirely disinclined to click on the thread due to the title.


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