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Rus helm for Greenshield

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:24 pm
by Donngal
This is a helmet that I built for Camric. Its based on the Chernigov 10th century find. Sometimes referred to as the "Great Polish Helm"
Its stainless with a brushed finish and a Knutt stainless aventail.

he kind of challenged me on this one about a year ago and we set up a deadline for this fall.
Its started with some pretty inspirational pictures that he sent me and went from there.

I just sent him the pictures ( I just finished it a hour ago) so he probably hasn't seen it , but I thought it came out cool so they are up here.

Im enjoying making this Rus' stuff and I hope to finish my own kit before Estrella. Well at least have it in the correct direction.

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Donngal

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:33 pm
by Richard of Rivenvale
That is beautiful!

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:36 pm
by Keegan Ingrassia
Good God! :shock:

I just salivated.

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:49 pm
by Chris Gilman
Nice job :D

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:55 pm
by Vasilii
:shock:
DRAT!!! I have lost my {DROOL} emoticon

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:25 pm
by Vladimir
Keegan Ingrassia wrote:Good God! :shock:

I just salivated.


:shock: I have to clean up too. Umm, I didn't salivate.

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:29 pm
by Token Bastard
Great googly moogly! That's hardcore!

-Ed

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:37 pm
by Hrolfr
:shock: :shock: :shock:

I'll be in my bunk!

Just freakin gourgeous!!!!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:15 am
by Vitus von Atzinger
Holy bat guano!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:19 am
by Wulfgar
Sexy. are the small brass plaques filled to prevent them deforming?

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:20 am
by TakedaSanjuichiro
Outstanding!

-Takeda

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:36 am
by Ursus of Rydborg
WOW, I err uh, WOW.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:49 am
by Halberds
Jolly well done.

Is the back guard offset on the inside to allow the maile to attach?

Thanks for sharing.

Hal

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:05 am
by Rudolph
absolutely gorgeous!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:45 am
by Johannes
Donngal is off for a weekend excursion with his wife, so I'll try to answer a couple of the questions in case he doesn't see them.

The brass plaques are thick enough that the dimples should stay without being back filled, and the dimples are pretty stubborn.

The mail is actually sewn to the brow band before it was rivetted to the helmet. We wouldn't normally do something like that because it can be a gigantic maintenance headache, but Greenshield is someone that'll take the time to keep up with it, so it should only be a small headache, :D

I'll tell you, the pictures really don't do this thing justice, it is way nicer in person...

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:43 am
by shamrockarmoury
Now that is some time in that helm, very very pretty

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:51 am
by SirOlafr
Oh my.

Purty.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:23 am
by Marius Brittanicus
Nothing like looking at a spiff kit when the King is whacking on you. Just when you think his Majesty has a kit to emulate..BOOM..here comes a curve ball. Great work.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:17 pm
by Donngal
I'm here I haven't left yet.

The small plaques on the side are made from 2 pieces of brass the middle is just thick, 12 gauge. There are 4 rivets there that I blended into the brass. Like Johannes mentioned the dimples will hold up to quite a beating and dont require any filling in the back.

The part of the back plate that's exposed was really me just not having any clue how I was gonna attach the mail, what it was gonna do or need to have done. Greenshield didn't want any exposed leather so I had this crazy Idea of sewing it to the brass brow band then attaching that to the helm after the grill was done. This required to helm to have been put together in order to make the grill fit correctly. lets just say this at first made my brain hurt.
This method isn't something I'll will be doing a lot of, maybe on my own helm.

Donngal

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:22 pm
by Jestyr
That is really, really lovely. You guys do beautiful work.

(And I am glad I have one of your hats, even if it isn't as nice at that one.)

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:46 pm
by George fH
Sweet Bananaz!- I like it alot, now its time for me to dream away about yet another kit that I want- strangely often it starts with a new headpiece.... :oops:

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:13 pm
by Magnus Ulfgarsson
Very sexy.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:47 pm
by Blackoak
What a bastard! I guess he got tired of me being prettier than him. :twisted:

That is really nice looking guys, I cant wait to see it in person.

Uric

who was just looking at Cam's other new helmet last weekend. Wait till you guys see that one as well. What a wienie.

wow

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:46 am
by Pitbull Armory
Hi there, wow, that is a really nice looking helm. If I had the skills to make a helm like this, which I dont, The only thing Id have done different would be to leave out the raised bump at the points on the upper panels, and let the brass rivets take their place. Thank you for sharing and keep up the good work.

Take care

Pitbull

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:10 am
by Ld Thomas Willoughby
That is mega sweet. :lol: :lol: Well done!!!

If you dont mind me asking.. how did you manage to make such neat dimples? A punch block of some sort? All I've tried tend to be a bit irregular. :(

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:10 am
by Motull Flakkari
Its a work of art. Beautiful work. I'm gonna need a clean up. Got a pattern?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:47 am
by Eadrich
That is a stunning piece of work!

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:09 pm
by audax
wow

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:28 pm
by Effingham
Ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.....


My pants feel funny....


That's a PRETTY hat.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:50 pm
by iaenmor
Very nice. Donngal, are the small rivets structural for joining the front/back pieces to the sides or just for looks. Just curious.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:58 pm
by Donngal
iaenmor wrote:Very nice. Donngal, are the small rivets structural for joining the front/back pieces to the sides or just for looks. Just curious.


Small rivets? not sure which ones you mean.

there are small rivets on the brass decor, but the helm is riveted with larger 3/16th rivets.

Donngal

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:04 pm
by Donngal
Lord Thomas Willoughby wrote:That is mega sweet. :lol: :lol: Well done!!!

If you dont mind me asking.. how did you manage to make such neat dimples? A punch block of some sort? All I've tried tend to be a bit irregular. :(


The dimpling is actually pretty simple, I just back the bottom die out of the Whitney punch so it doesnt completely punch through.

Donngal

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:34 am
by iaenmor
Around the edge where the steel plates join. Must be more dimpling like what you did on the brass.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:16 am
by Ld Thomas Willoughby
Donngal wrote:
Lord Thomas Willoughby wrote:That is mega sweet. :lol: :lol: Well done!!!

If you dont mind me asking.. how did you manage to make such neat dimples? A punch block of some sort? All I've tried tend to be a bit irregular. :(


The dimpling is actually pretty simple, I just back the bottom die out of the Whitney punch so it doesnt completely punch through.

Donngal


Ok, I'm now going to hang my head in shame after doing it so many times accidentally and then not realizing that was how you did it. :oops: :lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:53 am
by Mord
Ah....very, very nice!

Mord.