Looking for images - Milanese Gauntlets clam/finger combo

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:06 am

As the title suggests I am looking for images of Milanese gauntlets that use that clam/finger combo; I am more interested in the finger scale construction than anything else.

Thanks

Josh W · Post by **Josh W** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:06 pm

I'm not sure I'm clear on precisely what you're looking for. Is it something like these?

[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/4558942392_5c147bfd9c_o.jpg[/img]

It appears to me that the pair depicted here is a large finger-lame (clams?) over scale/"brigandine-work" fingers.

What about this?

Qwertypolk · Post by **Qwertypolk** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:51 pm

They're known as paddle gauntlets.

Matt Black makes a really nice pair, though he's having some troubles right now so may not reply to emails for a while. At the very least, take a look at the images on his website:

http://mattblackarmour.co.uk/blog/arm-armour/

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:39 am

That is the idea, the kind with the outer lames vs the covered lames like the earlier Churburg pair.

I think there is an extent pair from mid 15th century and was hoping for some photos of that pair.

Baron Alcyoneus · Post by **Baron Alcyoneus** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:01 am

Qwertypolk wrote:They're known as paddle gauntlets.

Is there really a need to invent a brand new term for a period gauntlet style?

Qwertypolk · Post by **Qwertypolk** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:20 am

Baron Alcyoneus wrote:
Qwertypolk wrote:They're known as paddle gauntlets.

Is there really a need to invent a brand new term for a period gauntlet style?

As far as I'm aware, it's not a new term, no newer than mitten or finger gauntlets.

Galvyn Lockhart · Post by **Galvyn Lockhart** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:10 pm

Jeffrey the Younger has made at least one pair. A pic of them can be found on his website - wassonartistry.com in the armour/gauntlets section.
I'm sure he'd be happy to answer any questions you might have re: the finger construction.

Thomas H · Post by **Thomas H** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:23 pm

Paddle gauntlets is a totally random term. Why not mitten?

If you'd have said paddple gauntlets to me without a pic, i'd have been a bit stumped!

Qwertypolk · Post by **Qwertypolk** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:30 pm

Thomas H wrote:Paddle gauntlets is a totally random term. Why not mitten?

If you'd have said paddple gauntlets to me without a pic, i'd have been a bit stumped!

Not entirely sure where the term comes from, Though Colin Middleton of KIBS uses it. I may well shoot him a PM on the LH forums and ask.

Errant Knight · Post by **Errant Knight** » Sun May 02, 2010 12:01 am

James, Have you tried the Arms & Armour forum? there is lots of pics there.

Jon Terris · Post by **Jon Terris** » Sun May 02, 2010 3:10 pm

Rene of Anjous Tournament book

Specifically the gauntlet sketches.

Can't go for the "paddle gauntlets", I don't believe it appears in any of the old texts (when there were umpteen different names for mail for example).

JonT

Baron Alcyoneus · Post by **Baron Alcyoneus** » Sun May 02, 2010 9:59 pm

L'identifiant du document n'est plus en session.

Whatever that means.

Jon Terris · Post by **Jon Terris** » Mon May 03, 2010 2:04 pm

Baron Alcyoneus wrote:L'identifiant du document n'est plus en session.

Whatever that means.

Yeah, sorry bad link.

Goto This link and follow the instructions.

Eventually, you'll find a picture of three gauntlets drawn for Rene's tournament manuscript!