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Paging Chris Gilman, your next challenge awaits.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:17 pm
by sha-ul
especially since I have heard you have very large hands.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39487112/ns ... nce-space/

Life as an astronaut involves risks. But who knew those risks come even from wearing space suit gloves?

A new study found that fingernail injury is a common problem with astronaut gloves, and that spaceflyers with larger hands are more likely to be hurt by their gloves.

Astronaut gloves are designed to protect the hand from the vacuum of space and to resist puncturing from bits of debris that might impact while an astronaut is working on a spacewalk. Glove design has had to sacrifice some flexibility for strength.

The injuries most often result from tight gloves that cut off blood flow to the fingertips, the study found. But sustained pressure at the fingertips can cause fingernails to break or, in extreme cases, detach from their nailbeds or fall off entirely.

"It's pretty challenging to design gloves and the space suit to keep someone alive in the extreme environment of space," said study co-author Dava Newman, a professor of astronautics at MIT.

"It shows you there's still room for improvement in future designs," she told SPACE.com.

The study looked at data from 232 NASA astronauts, and found that 22 of them (about 10 percent) incurred "fingernail trauma" while wearing space suit gloves.

The results will be detailed in the October issue of the journal Aviation, Space, and Environmental Medicine.

The researchers analyzed 22 different measurements of the hand, such as hand circumference and finger-to-hand size ratio. They found a significant correlation between hand circumference and injury rates.

In particular, male astronauts with a hand circumference larger than 9 inches (23 cm) have a 19.6 percent probability of fingernail injury, while crewmembers with hands smaller than that have only a 5.6 percent chance of injury, the study found.

The larger the hand, the more restrictive the gloves seem to be. In particular, the current gloves offer very limited movement in the hand's metacarpal joint, which allows the hand to bend the fingers over the palm.

"The gloves are preventing the natural movement," Newman said. "It does suggest for advanced glove design, we really want to pay more attention to that metacarpal joint. We really want to give the hand as much flexibility as you can get."

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:50 pm
by Chris Gilman
I'm sort of working on that already...
The guy who won the NASA glove challange (last glove in photo) , Peter Homer, works for Orbital Outfitters, the comapny I'm chief designer for.
www.orbitaloutfitters.com

Peter has built a custom set of gloves for me to test on our suit.
Here are my gloves (Restraint layer)
Image

Here's a shot with the suit and glove attached. (Note both of the following shots have no abrasion/ thermal protection layer, something that will be added)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/spacemansam/2713244262/

Here is a shot of the glove (with me inside) at 4.3 psi (NASA EMU standard) in one of our tests

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:11 pm
by Chris Gilman
I meant to add, one of the reasons fingernails get damaged, is when a suit is pressurized, it grows considerably. It gets bigger in diameter and longer. So to keep their fingers right at the end of the gloves, many astronauts, when being fit for the suit, ask to have the sleeves shorter than they should be, so when the suit is pressurized, their fingers will still be right at the end of the glove. As a result, their finger nails are pressed up against the end of the gloves and get bent backwards.
The orbital Outfitters suit is fairly close fitting and yet when pressurized it doesn’t touch me other than were I make contact in order to bend. In fact we are making is smaller so it performs better.
4.3 PSI doesn’t sound like much, but it is. (As a comparison when you blow up a balloon it is only 0.5 psi) As this is “Per square inchâ€

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:47 pm
by sha-ul
[quote="Chris Gilman"]I meant to add, one of the reasons fingernails get damaged, is when a suit is pressurized, it grows considerably. It gets bigger in diameter and longer. So to keep their fingers right at the end of the gloves, many astronauts, when being fit for the suit, ask to have the sleeves shorter than they should be, so when the suit is pressurized, their fingers will still be right at the end of the glove. As a result, their finger nails are pressed up against the end of the gloves and get bent backwards.
The orbital Outfitters suit is fairly close fitting and yet when pressurized it doesn’t touch me other than were I make contact in order to bend. In fact we are making is smaller so it performs better.
4.3 PSI doesn’t sound like much, but it is. (As a comparison when you blow up a balloon it is only 0.5 psi) As this is “Per square inchâ€

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:11 pm
by Ingelri
Chris,

That's just plain cool.

The things I would give to have a career like yours. And I thought being a cop was interesting.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:50 pm
by J.G.Elmslie
you total and utter magnificent bastard.

I am utterly envious of your job. :D

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:42 am
by Halberds
Best of luck on making our astronauts safer and more comfortable. Huzzah!

Now you know why I do not make SCA gauntlets.
I can not accept the liability.
I would have to have the client in my shop 2 hours a day 4 or more days, in order for them to fit and function to my satisfaction.

Fingers are very fragile and exposed to your sports crippling blows.
I would think, ill fitting gaunts are responsible for several injures I have read about on this forum.

Hal

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:28 am
by Matthew Amt
Oh, NEAT! Presumably the outer layer will have more embossing and brass trim, right?

Halberds wrote:Fingers are very fragile and exposed to your sports crippling blows.


Well, in this case it helps that the astronauts aren't hitting each other (hopefully!), but yeah, heck of an engineering challenge.

Say, zero-g rattan combat, that WOULD be interesting to see! Is there an SCA barony in orbit, or would that just be considered a border dispute? Someone call NASA!

Matthew

Hi

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:28 pm
by Pitbull Armory
That is awesome Chris.

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:43 pm
by chris19d
Matthew Amt wrote:Oh, NEAT! Presumably the outer layer will have more embossing and brass trim, right?

Halberds wrote:Fingers are very fragile and exposed to your sports crippling blows.


Well, in this case it helps that the astronauts aren't hitting each other (hopefully!), but yeah, heck of an engineering challenge.

Say, zero-g rattan combat, that WOULD be interesting to see! Is there an SCA barony in orbit, or would that just be considered a border dispute? Someone call NASA!

Matthew


The ISS was claimed by Ansteorra I believe.

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:15 pm
by Klaus the Red
How about the Shire of LEO (incipient)? :)

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:16 pm
by Keegan Ingrassia
chris19d wrote:The ISS was claimed by Ansteorra I believe.


wOOt!

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:24 pm
by Chris Gilman
I believe that would be because Richard Garriott, an SCA member from Austin TX. is the only SCA'er who has been there!
Edit: See here;
http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/an ... 63169.html