The Armour Archive

Center, with the lance couched.


Its something that I've always wanted to make myself, but since joining the military its going to be a long time until I get a shop set back up.

Looking for prices and such. As I've never bought armour before, I don't know who would make something like this.

It looks like a salet w/ bevor of some type.
It might also be called a salade or schalern depending on the museum.

It may also be an armet its hard to tell.

The painting is a bit stylized but I'd call it an italian sallet, circa the mid-to-latter half of the 15th century.

Overall, the italian armour is very distinctive, although there is some oddness. The tassets attached to the center figure are strange, but more likely due to an artist who was working from memory rather than due to strange armour.

As for the helm, it's an sallet (salade/celata/etc.) with side pivoting visor (here shown raised) over a bevor that protects the throat and chin of the wearer. The bevor would not be attached to the helm in any way on an italian suit, it is a seperate, though necessary, part.

There are a couple of extent helms that show similarity to this one, but I don't have access to my resources at the moment. I'm certain someone else can post a photo of something similar however.


Frederich

Im not completely certain but the breast plate the man with the couched lance has on looks like a Kastenbrust. wouldn't that make it more likely that its an armet. I could be wrong but I was under the impression that the Kastenbrust was gone by the time the Sallet showed up.

I've seen armets and sallets on kastenbrusts harnesses. With this helmet, I wasn't sure if the bevor was attached a la a close helm, or seperate. The helm I originally made for the harness was a wide brimmed kettle, so I never spent much time researching any of the other helmets or working on build designs.

These images show what I believe to be a similar, albeit later style, and more what I am looking for.

Sallet w/visor and bevor, yes probably an Italian celata.

Sallets span from mid fifteenth to mid sixteenth, roughly. If the remainder of the harness checks out to either century, you can nail it to at worst a particular 25-yr period.

The picture is drawn from an illustrated Bible I haven't seen before, and I hope someone can say which it might be. Book of Joshua, I think, King Whatzizname snagged in a tree by his hair, and slain by the victorious Israelites shortly thereafter? I think the Maciejowski also illustrates that one.

The dividing line between the bascinet, barbute and salet can be quite arbitrary at times.

But it is not an armet.



I'd call this rig(the first pic posted) "South German".

Any suggestions on who would be best suited to make something like this? I really like Jiri Klepacs work, but he's not taking orders right now.

Dierick,

We can do something like this. Let me talk it over with my shop guys for a quote and timeline.

Check out some of the other helms we've done recently; Sallet, Sugarloaf, Fluted Drop Nose, and this Valsgarde 6.

And this Burgeonet we are working on.

Nakos

Konstantin the Red wrote:The picture is drawn from an illustrated Bible I haven't seen before, and I hope someone can say which it might be. Book of Joshua, I think, King Whatzizname snagged in a tree by his hair, and slain by the victorious Israelites shortly thereafter? I think the Maciejowski also illustrates that one.

Absalom?
The 3rd son of King David.

Tom

In the third painting I find very fascinating the maille depicted, it has very large rings, and looking at the detail of those flemish artist, I think it was really that way, maybe it is a baidana, the russian maille with big rings?

The third painting looks like something I have never seen before.
Looks like a Frog mouth but visored. Then attached to a sallet.
Interesting

How about some of the stuff in this thread

Tom