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I got a Peascod going and was wondering if the side profile should be mostly flat from the upper chest down to the point on the belly? Or should it be more rounded as it goes down?

Please post your thoughts on this Peascod if you get time so I can impove the shape of these BPs. Thank you in advance for your time.



HAPPY FRIDAY

Pitbull

yours has about the same contours as mine, however mine has a slightly larger flare at the bottom. IIRC it was made by ABHammer

Hi, Ok thank you Sha-ul, Ill be adding a little more shape on the sides tomorrow. The Lower Flare or Fauld you mentioned will be larger like you say also. The BP just has a flange turned out on the bottom for a fauld to be riveted on. I think the faulds are wider at the sides than they are in the middle. Is that how yours is? Are the rolls on yours turned in or out?


Thanks for the info

Pitbull

There is no flat surface anywhere in a breastplate. They are all slightly convex. If nothing else the convexity means they can be hand filed or hand-sanded with a board with grit applied to it. Flat/concave sections are a pain to sand any other way then by hand and even by hand isn't fun.

Sean

Pitbull, here are links to profile pictures of some surviving peascod breastplates from Wade Allen's collection:

http://www.allenantiques.com/images/A-113profile.jpg
http://www.allenantiques.com/images/A-15-profile.jpg
http://www.allenantiques.com/images/A-153-breast-side.jpg

You should dig around in the allenantiques.com site. Wade has very detailed, close-up photos of the insides and outsides of surviving armor pieces from multiple angles. He also has weights and measurements for some pieces. The site focuses on 16th-17th-century armor.

Hi, Sean, thanks I know theres no flat surfaces anywhere on medieval armor, And yes its a bitch to sand flat stuff.

I was asking about the profile line of the crease, when you view it sideways. Should the center crease be straight when viewed from the side or have a curve, the areas on each side of the crease are not flat.

Flittie thank you for the links, I should have checked Mr Allens site first. Those pics are EXACTLY what I needed to see.

So there is a slight arch to the center crease but its not globose like.

Thank you

Have a good weekend

Pitbull

"The site focuses on 16th-17th c. armour"

Well, you are correct. It wasn't intentional, I promise. It just focuses on what I can afford and 15th c. stuff is few and far between and outside the range of any normal human. I would really prefer to focus on 14th and 15th c stuff. If only I had Hearst's money.....

Pitbull, yes the site should be pretty good for what you want. Wander around, click on images. They get pretty big. As long as people aren't taking the images for publication or to resell my pieces without my permission, feel free to do what you want with them. Copy, print, link to them.... the pictures and information are there for people to use.

If there is another angle someone needs of a particular piece, the light is reasonable and the thing isn't to burried inside a suit or something I am happy to take more images when they will help.

On a side note, I just got a cuisse/knee from the later 16th c. that actually moves like they should, a gorget with munions and tassets that go along with them and I am about to go pick up a pair of cuisses/knees and some full arms. All of them are mid-late 16th c. Once I have them all I will shoot more pictures and add them to the site.

Legs (and to a lesser extent arms) are really hard to find so I am excited to be adding some. The legs all have nicely dished cuisses.

Wade

wade = awesome

I just want to take this moment to point out the obvious:
Wade's collection is Awesome but more importantly, he himself collects, restores, documents and displays items so that medievalists like us can learn about the fine details of original pieces, that we would otherwise have to guess or make wild-ass assumptions about.
His name isn't bill gates or hava title like Price of Nogravia and he doesn't have millionaire benefactors like the Met, yet he builds this treasure trove of objects out of his own pocket. And unlike most others who create private collections to satisfy their own greedy desire to have and admire the pieces without regard for others who would like to know about them, Wade occasionally opens his house to viewings to see and touch pieces that many of us would never have the means to do so.
(I realize that some museums will allow you to arrange private viewings on select pieces, not to the extent of little ol' wade).
And why does he do it all? I don't know except that he is one big S.O.B.
(Selfless Object Benefactor) to medievalists in the states.
And I also know that whenever he is in my company his money will be worthless and the cup he holds will never be empty. And you can stuff that in your crossbow and shoot it.

-Cian
(Note that crazy assed comments posted here do not necessarily reflect the views of the Armor Archive or it's owner).

Thanks Cian.

I grew up in a house where my father (a professor of medieval English) always tried to share whatever he could. I have followed his example in some ways - I collect what I can that illustrates style and technique and I share what I have with others.

The new leg:

http://www.allenantiques.com/A-169.html

I will post pictures of the other new pieces after I get them.

I don't know when will be the best time, but I will have another study session sometime soon.

Wade