The Armour Archive

Knitebee is making my new helmet modeled after this helm.

So I thought I would make a progress thread.

moar

and today's updates:

Looks like this helmet is fast approaching a level of badassery that few have reached.

Cadfael_Mynnydd wrote:Knitebee is making my new helmet modeled after this helm.

It's a smurf helmet!

VERY nice!!! Love the faceplate! I have long planned to make myself one of these for the hellenistic kit I have been planning - I hope mine will look half as sexy as yours!

Any reason for minimizing the peak so much? Is that necessary to comply with SCA rules?

ushumgal wrote:VERY nice!!! Love the faceplate! I have long planned to make myself one of these for the hellenistic kit I have been planning - I hope mine will look half as sexy as yours!

Any reason for minimizing the peak so much? Is that necessary to comply with SCA rules?

It is not particularly necessary to comply with SCA rules, but think about the lever arm on your neck that crest on the original creates. I have to wonder whether that helm was ever meant to be worn in combat because of that crest.

I think it was, greek combat had way more emphasis on thrusting than on slashing so the risk of a broken neck is reduced. still it is a little extreme. thanks guys.

Thallian wrote:It's a smurf helmet!

you ruined it, I had noticed this and was planning on photo shopping the helm when finished on to Poppa Smurf and coloring it to match.

Cadfael_Mynnydd wrote:I think it was, greek combat had way more emphasis on thrusting than on slashing so the risk of a broken neck is reduced. still it is a little extreme. thanks guys.

Without question - many kinds of ancient helms had tall crests or were very tall and pointy themselves. Assyrian helmets, for example, usually had a point that was as high again as the bowl of the helmet. The principle melee weapon of the ancient world was the spear, so blows to the side of the head were not going to be as common (and it seems many ancient helms were unstrapped, so a solid blow to the side of a crest would just knock the helm off the person's head). However, I think ancient helms were designed above all to defend against missile weapons. The shoulder doublings of Greek and Roma armour were certainly designed to help protect against missiles coming in at steep angles, and I suspect pointy helmets like the Assyrian ones were considered better for deflecting incoming missiles (whether or not this is really true, I do not know).

@Cadfael
I do think this hat will be close to the same level of badasserry as your stache good sir..

Fabtastic Knitbee! I can't wait to see it finished!

I mistyped and wrote fabtastic. I was going to edit that but since I have a stuffy nose ATM when I say fantastic out loud it sounds like fabtastic anyway

couple more days of work on it then it's off to the heat treater for carburizing and heat treating

squee!

On that note anyone interested in buying my current helm?
I have a 24 inch head and the helm fits well with a cloth and wool liner. with blue foam it would probably fit up to a 25 1/2 inch head. the top is twelve gauge, the face is fourteen and the back is sixteen. No dents and due to the Russet-ed finish no rust.
Three hundred plus shipping.

Count Johnathan wrote:Fabtastic Knitbee! I can't wait to see it finished!

I mistyped and wrote fabtastic. I was going to edit that but since I have a stuffy nose ATM when I say fantastic out loud it sounds like fabtastic anyway

I read it as a hip combination of "fabulous" & "fantastic", which this helmet certainly is.

Can someone cross post this to classifieds or should I make a new post?

Fabtastic is a word....I think it is "Faaaaabtastic"...nice, nice work my brother!

Moar coming soon.

Count Johnathan wrote:Fabtastic Knitbee! . . . I mistyped and wrote fabtastic. I was going to edit that but since I have a stuffy nose ATM when I say fantastic out loud it sounds like fabtastic anyway

Fabtastigg.

And that much gently used helmet for three Benjamins is a deal.

Thanks Konstantine!

more.

I really like your detailing work...this is turning out to be one sexy hat!

Yeah -- fun fun fun! Is Greek-cake, Phrygian-cake, galatobouriko or baklava?

When this gets back from the heat treating will it be black? That would be amazing.

Also you should have him do brass work like thin on the beard and mustache and eyebrows!!

That is one beeeeeeeeeutiful helm. I would like to have brass work like that. it would be a good highlight. I will ask him about it being black.

Hi, beautiful hat Knitebee. One thing that occurred to me was that a thrust may crush the moustache over the mouth area in combat. Maybe you could run a 1/4 inch bar on the inside to reinforce it? I cant wait to see this one finished. Thanks for the progress pics.

Take care

Pitbull

Moar.

more update photos, isn't finish sanded yet as its yet to be heat treated.

Seriously cool. Well done sir!

Damn !!!!

You best be working that handle bar 'stache Cadfael !!!

Should look kick ass !!!

You know it! :-3)