Riveted mail vs Welded mail ... pros and cons

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Re: Riveted mail vs Welded mail ... pros and cons

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Steve, at least for europe, it is hard to find good maille. Actually, the best ratio price/quality is flat riveted maille offered by these german guys. I don't know where they take it, but actually this is where we buy stuff, and are pleased enough with it.
I tell you this for 2 reasons:
1) I think it would be really great it you find viable to make your project run
2) I remember many years ago when you give up with it, and I think we all lost a chance.

The problem, apart price, is always marketing, I would evaluate selling trough one of those big reseller instead of taking the burden on me.

Here you go:

http://www.battlemerchant.com/Chain-Mai ... 5_115.html

http://www.battlemerchant.com/Chain-Mai ... 5_114.html

That wedge riveted appear quite good.

Give it a look.

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Re: Riveted mail vs Welded mail ... pros and cons

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Signo wrote:Question:

What kind of maille would you use if you should protect the armpit of a fighter that is using rebated spears, arming sword and poleaxes?

The idea is that armpit are not a deliberate target, but I really fear thrusts that slip over the breastplate and are not catched by edge rolls of armpit, slipping under the pauldron.

Thanks
In our practice, the armpit, throat and hips are perfectly valid targets for rebated weapons. Every commercial mail available today, including the cheapo pop-can rings people like to poo-poo, works just fine. Some requires minor maintenance once the first complete inspection for bad rings has been done. I wouldn't trust any of it against sharp thrusts if my life were on the line. None of it is up to the design standard of real medieval mail, IMHO.

If one is fighting with taped batons, the quality of the mail is irrelevant. Just pick an affordable option and adjust to fit well. Mail is purely cosmetic in baton combat; the use of batons, flat plywood shields, barred visors and basket hilted weapons makes the presentation less appropriate visually than any minor variance in mail construction.
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My problem was capital. I didn't have enough cash to buy big enough shipments to keep the inventory channels full.

But it was doomed from the start anyway. By putting the means of production into the hands of the Indians, I made myself a middleman. Once the product became a commodity, there was no profit margin for a middleman unless you sell large quantities.

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Steve,

Unfortunately, all I can offer you is my wits.....

Mac
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Have you guys checked out the work of Paweł Dubiel?

He makes aventails and such for Thorkil.pl

Looks like really quality work, and not an unreasonable price.
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