What would this cost?

Prince Of Darkmoor · Post by **Prince Of Darkmoor** » Tue Mar 13, 2001 2:40 pm

What would a hauberk for a medium sized person (mid length sleeves, mid thigh length shirt) using 3/8" 16ga stainless steel links in a king's maille pattern cost?

Pure insanity, right? My roommate has delusions of making one and is looking to buy the wire sometime soon. I think he's nuts. So, what would something like this go for?

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Drake Orion · Post by **Drake Orion** » Tue Mar 13, 2001 4:48 pm

It would be double the cost dude...it is double the links. It took me twice the time and links to make a sample. so I would say at least double.

Dwarlock · Post by **Dwarlock** » Tue Mar 13, 2001 5:18 pm

I'd say triple, not only is it double the rings, but I'd say it's almost 4 times the work, perhaps it's becuase I'm not a great mailler, but it takes me forever to get the second set of rings in and closed.

Prince Of Darkmoor · Post by **Prince Of Darkmoor** » Tue Mar 13, 2001 5:25 pm

What would a stainless steel 16ga shirt normally go for then? If I knew that, I could easily multiply the cost by 2.5 or 3 and get a decent estimate.

taltosh · Post by **taltosh** » Tue Mar 13, 2001 6:51 pm

Well, the way I see it is this: SS is much more expensive than Gal ever is AND is harder to handle and cut, so. Start with your cost for same size rings in Gal (what you charge for it I mean) multiply that by 2.5 or 3 depending on what you think the effort is worth (personaly i think that with the added effort in cutting and closing SS compared to Gal AND given the fact that you're thinking King's maille a x3 factor is appropriate) once you've got that figured out, calculate the cost of supplies and add to it. (remember that king's maille will require twice the length of wire than a regular 4/1 weave would.)

Overall, I wouldn't be surprised with a cost around 1400$-1500$US not to mention the fact that this monster will weigh probably around 60lbs (remember that SS is heavier than Gal)

All and all, I agree with you that your roommate has lost it. You might want to try and convince him in using 18Ga SS instead, king's maille is much stronger than 4/1 and it will greatly recude the weight and cost.

My .02$

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Garridan · Post by **Garridan** » Tue Mar 13, 2001 7:35 pm

force him to make it riveted. King's maille is a bitch for upkeep I've heard... a lot harder to see a missing link.
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Otto von Teich · Post by **Otto von Teich** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 9:40 am

What is Kings mail, Double mail ie small links with heavy gauge wire? 8 in 2 links? Thanks, Otto

taltosh · Post by **taltosh** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 10:31 am

Kiing's maille is the popular if not proper term for 8 in 2, i.e. all the rings are doubled up IIRC

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Drake Orion · Post by **Drake Orion** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 12:00 pm

[img]http://www.webcomics.net/Armour/KingsMail.jpg[/img]

these are 16 ga 3/8 id