The Armour Archive

...what are you all planning on lacing your plates together with? Thanks

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"I've borne the bloodstained sword and bitter spearshaft, the Raven at my right hand..."

well i plan on using sinew from all the vikings ive killed for invading my island

(Stein) "Is This Ireland???"

(Ulf) "No, you fool, this is England...you got us lost!"

(Stein) "Well, should we stay here? We could trade for weapons, perhaps"

(Ulf) "Umm...maybe. The Franks make better iron though."

(Stein) "Well, let's trade for sheepskins."

(Ulf) "No way, the gamey sheep in this land sprout the meanest bristles in all Europe. If it's wool you're after, we'll check in on the Scots."

(Stein) *grinning* well, it's back to the second-oldest profession in the world. Pass me that axe, we're going to Church."

(Ulf) "Stein, we'd be much better off sacking an Irish monastery. The goldsmiths here are amateurish in comparison the the Gaels."

(Stein) "Beer?"

(Ulf) "Back to Denmark then, I won't drink this swill."

(Stein) "Furs?"

(Ulf) "Sweden."

(Stein) "Slaves?"

(Ulf) "Ha! Not if you're planning on selling them."

(Stein)*worried* "Umm, this England sounds like a harsh land, the natives must be hardy, brutal warriors."

(Ulf)*laughing* "Um, let's stick around..."

Waxed linen, prolly..

I thought about silk until I remembered what the half life of silk in full sunlight is Most likely wax hemp until I can think of something else thats period, strong and economical. Unfortunately leather falls short of being economical.

probably 550 paracord for economic and maintance reasons I just need to find it in red they have it here on base but I haven't found a place to buy it yet.

Leather thong -- the kind you get for lacing those Moccasin boots many SCAdians have.



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Norman J. Finkelshteyn
Silk Road Designs Armoury
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Maxi-Cord 6 mm Braided Macrame cord.
http://www.alpineimport.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=166&sid=4sxEDW01aA199Di

Robert Coleman, Jr.



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Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those who don't.

Hey Bob! You are used to do this sort of thing. Just out for curiousities sake how much of the Maxi-cord do you use for your armour.(the whole deal, shoulders, skirt klibanion.)

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Templar Bob>

Thanks for the link, the macrame cord looks very promising. Just a quick question;
http://members.dencity.com/DeTyre/pix/07smurfs2.jpg

(cute pic, BTW )

Is that the 6mm macrame cord?

Also to second Logan's question; how much is enough?

Thanks in advance

Brodir

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"I've borne the bloodstained sword and bitter spearshaft, the Raven at my right hand..."

Hey guys,

I just finished lacing mine. I tried the leather lacing but it wears far too quickly (some breakage before the whole thing was even laced). I would very much recommend against it. I wound up using two courses of doubled artificial sinue (so 4 courses in all). I would also recommend not doing more than 10-15 plates before tieing off. All the rubbing of the sinue on the holes to pull it through 20 or more plates causes it to begin fraying.

Being the impatient bugger that I am. I got a local laser shop to cut me plates based on the design for the order (Getting 500 in the order as well). I used 1/8" nylon rope. And found that to make a loop around my waist I needed just over 2 times around me.

We have done one full suit and it took 100-150 feet of rope. That is for 250 plates.

Brandr hinn Rusli

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brandr hinn Rusli:
Being the impatient bugger that I am. I got a local laser shop to cut me plates based on the design for the order (Getting 500 in the order as well).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How much did this cost you? And what material did you get? How big were they?

It's a lot of questions but I need 1000 1X4 plates made out of 20 gage steel and I'd really rather not cut them myself....

Heya! I talked with Apoc about the lames, and he said I could still jump into the order! I am interesed in 400 lames; I just need to find out the exact amount (which should be a little over $100 for 400, correct? ), and the who and where of sending the check. If I can find out the small details, that would be great!

**This is repost--I just want to make sure I get in this order! Thanks!

Baculus, aka Ivan La Follette

Baculus:
Look at the other "Addy for lamellar order" post. All your questions are answered there.

-- jt --

Bojei - I had them cut for nothing since the shop owed me for some work I had done for them. They were done from a dull finish 20 ga. stainless, unsure of alloy. I got the exact same ones as the order since I want to be able to use some of the extras from both to put together suit(s).

If you want a shop to cut them for you, ask them to oxy cut them on the laser. This makes a slaggier cut than other methods but also speeds the cut up greatly. You could also delete the 2 holes that are on the bottom of the plate since making holes on the laser is a time consuming process (increasing cost). If you are willing to do your own holes than cutting them on a laser might be an economical option, but you might get the same price by going in on the Al order.

I had mine oxy cut then rented a cement mixer and put about 40-50lbs of sand in with the plates and let it run for 3 hrs. Was simple and took about 95% of the slag off. What little was left came off easily when I was rinsing the sand off the plates.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brandr hinn Rusli:
<B>Being the impatient bugger that I am. I got a local laser shop to cut me plates based on the design for the order (Getting 500 in the order as well). I used 1/8" nylon rope. And found that to make a loop around my waist I needed just over 2 times around me.

We have done one full suit and it took 100-150 feet of rope. That is for 250 plates.

Brandr hinn Rusli</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm assuming that the plate design worked then?

Can you make up a drawing of how you laced them for everyone?


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The plate pattern does indeed 'work'. I have so far put together one 'minimal' suit, and a 'full' suit. The minimal consists of 2 rows high all the way around with an extra row across my front to cover my xyphoid process. This is to be worn under my current 'hidden' armour implementation.

The full suit covers the torso and shoulders. The lacing pattern I used was the one originally shown in the construction thread. If it is still around. If not I can take some pics. (Should do that anyways to show it off. )

Brandr hinn Rusli (Who is thinking now of doing some lamellar legs for his hidden set).

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brodir:
<B>Templar Bob>

Thanks for the link, the macrame cord looks very promising. Just a quick question;
http://members.dencity.com/DeTyre/pix/07smurfs2.jpg

(cute pic, BTW )

Is that the 6mm macrame cord?

Also to second Logan's question; how much is enough?

Thanks in advance

Brodir

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Brodir:

Yes, that's the stuff---please ignore the vile plastic lamellar. Insure that it's the braided[ cord.


Robert Coleman, Jr.

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Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those who don't.