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name of chainmail skirt.

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:24 pm
by hornsofodin
simple question. what is the name of the chainmail voider/skirt that goes under the chest plate and above the legs (i know dumb question but cant find it) where could i find one either riveted or welded. thanks.

Re: name of chainmail skirt.

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:48 pm
by Jonny Deuteronomy
brayette

Re: name of chainmail skirt.

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:45 pm
by Ernst
Brayettes are put on like diapers. Skirts show up in English inventories as paunces.

Re: name of chainmail skirt.

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:38 pm
by Konstantin the Red
Fauld is sometimes used, though it also means the assemblage of taces in the same area, or the defense in depth of leathered-articulating taces outside and mail underneath.

The Indian makers do offer rectangles of their tabby-mail which may be cut up and assembled as wanted, particularly with laying hold of loose links to zip the pieces together with. Not completely authentic to the medieval model, but mighty stout yet.

You wouldn't much need to work expansions into it; it is built with a couple of V-shaped flies interrupting the waist and the rest of it big enough to pass over your butt easily. Once up, thong laces at the flies cinch it closed at your waistline. There's a pointed-on edition too, such as seen in an illumination in How A Man Schall Be Armed At His Ease. He seems to be getting it pointed on him at the side, right by his hip crest, fastening to his armyng-cote, the one the text describes as "full of hoolis." On the inside, I guess.

Re: name of chainmail skirt.

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:13 pm
by hornsofodin
hmm i may end up getting the sheet. i picked up a shirt from indai recently and the quality is nice.

Re: name of chainmail skirt.

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:13 am
by Armourkris
Ice falcon carries a mail skirt. I used it to make the lower section of my yushaman. it isn't as tailored as I'd have liked, but it definitely has some expansions already worked into it.

Re: name of chainmail skirt.

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:54 am
by Ernst
Konstantin the Red wrote:The Indian makers do offer rectangles of their tabby-mail which may be cut up and assembled as wanted, particularly with laying hold of loose links to zip the pieces together with. Not completely authentic to the medieval model, but mighty stout yet.
K-
I used to feel the same way, but I think the medieval model is to maximize production. I keep seeing more and more mail which is clearly pieced rather than made from "whole cloth". Wallace A8 mail cap was noted to be assembled this way by Erik Schmid, and Tom B and I observed this on Allen A2. The British Museum standard with the 6:1 collar has a mantle assembled by either running all the expansions in a line, or cutting the base fabric into trapezoids. I suspect it was easier to have journeymen and apprentices doing simple, repetitive tasks, and let the master cut and fit.

Re: name of chainmail skirt.

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:55 pm
by Konstantin the Red
In the "not completely authentic" part I was speaking of the form of the links. They don't look like museum-specimen links, though they function every bit as well. From their shape I call them "tabby links" because they put you in mind of poptabs without exactly being of that sort. I've been touting that shirt assembly method myself for years.

Re: name of chainmail skirt.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:21 am
by Tom B.
hornsofodin wrote:simple question. what is the name of the chainmail voider/skirt that goes under the chest plate and above the legs (i know dumb question but cant find it) where could i find one either riveted or welded. thanks.

I have a new uncleaned / unused 6mm riveted fauld I bought from Icefalcon.
They sell for $395 + shipping.
I will sell mine for $250 shipped.

PM me if interested.
I am getting ready to go on a 2+week business trip to China so if you want this quick act fast.

Re: name of chainmail skirt.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:19 pm
by Vermillion
I should have my mail skirt finished by this weekend. I'll post some pics. I'm not sure how historic my approach is, but is turning out pretty decent looking.