Sean M wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:49 pm
Over the years we have talked about how sometimes mail voiders at the knee and elbow may have been attached to the plates rather than sewn to the doublet and hose. Mail fringes on 15th century Italian armour are some good examples. Could your old way be related to that? They would have been used to the mail moving around a bit inside the knee and elbow armour as the knee and the elbow bent.
I had not considered the idea that earlt plate voiders might be attached to the hosen. I just assumed that they were attached to the plates, like later ones are. This is certainly a thing worth keeping in mind.
Mac
Robert MacPherson
The craftsmen of old had their secrets, and those secrets died with them. We are not the better for that, and neither are they.
I was thinking more "what if they were used to 'the voider just hangs there and you have to tuck it under the greave or the lower canon but mostly it works'? And then after a lot of fiddling with sliding rivets they decided they needed to build plate voiders more like an articulated knee or elbow than a fauld.