couldn't find my old post on this... and I have a new question about besagues.
Did pauldrons with besagues also have a pair of besagues on the back? I have this book called "story of the World's Greatest Nations, volume VI - England"... its copyright date is 1906 or something like that, and it's full of those psuedo victorian illustrations.. in the background of one of them, a knight has his back turned and there's besagues on the back of the armor.
Did they do that? I don't think I've ever seen any rear shots of armors w/ besagues and it does kind of make sense to cover up the hole in the back too.
I remember some of what was said in response to my earlier post, which was on besagues on early 16th century armor, and if some parts of a harness would have been discarded by personal preferance of the wearer...
I mentioned a woodcut of a guy in half armor, wearing only one arm harness... I found the pic of the woodcut in the Men at Arms Landsknechts book, on page 9. someone asked about the date of the woodcut... the caption below suggests 1550 (which is a little later than I am going for).
all I have left to do on my armor is the cod piece and arms.. I'll post pics when it's done.. or maybe sooner... what I have done now is wearable and I'm using it for a demo this weekend.
besagues, again...
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I don't think I've ever seen any rear shots of armors w/ besagues and it does kind of make sense to cover up the hole in the back too.</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The besagues were used to cover the gap in front of the arm-pit and still allow you to cross your arms in front.
The same place on the back was usually covered by a rigid extension of the shoulder piece (fan). If you can cross your arms in the back you have no business wearing armour
. Besagues on the back would also be easier to move aside and stab under.
That being said It would not surprise me if Someone Somewhere decided to make a harness like that just for variety.
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I don't think I've ever seen any rear shots of armors w/ besagues and it does kind of make sense to cover up the hole in the back too.</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The besagues were used to cover the gap in front of the arm-pit and still allow you to cross your arms in front.
The same place on the back was usually covered by a rigid extension of the shoulder piece (fan). If you can cross your arms in the back you have no business wearing armour
. Besagues on the back would also be easier to move aside and stab under.That being said It would not surprise me if Someone Somewhere decided to make a harness like that just for variety.
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Vogeljager
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