elbow cops

Llywelyn · Post by **Llywelyn** » Sat Jun 30, 2001 7:53 pm

Greetings,

I am about to embark on my first plate project. A set of elbow cops. I have a pattern that should work, but when I look at the pattern it simply looks too small. I don't know why. It is plenty big in length(around my elbow) but in width(up and down my arm) is seems sort of thin. Is this normal? I won't have any lames with this just the cop itself(and splinted arms)

So what is the average width of your patterns? I think these are a medium pattern.

Llywelyn

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Galon · Post by **Galon** » Sat Jun 30, 2001 8:55 pm

if you would post the pattern, then it would be easier to evaluate it

Sasha · Post by **Sasha** » Sat Jun 30, 2001 9:30 pm

Make one out of card. If it is too small then you will know to tinker with the pattern.

You could even waste a vast amount of steel and just make a "trial" version of the pattern. you will then also have a piec to try and make all your mistakes on...that way the two elbows you end up with will have the benefit of not beiong the VERY first plate you have built.

Torture some metal, you know you want to.

Sasha

JJ Shred · Post by **JJ Shred** » Sat Jun 30, 2001 11:53 pm

I agree, try it, your first attempt will probably be junk anyway. You will learn, and you can modify size once you see what a mess you've made of it.
One of the things I notice most about my "mechanically challenged" friends, is that they never try. They look at my modest and sometimes pathetic attempts, and only see the success of three or four attempts. You learn from your mistakes, and problem-solving is a skill that comes in handy in the real world as well.

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Llywelyn · Post by **Llywelyn** » Mon Jul 02, 2001 8:44 am

Greetings,

great thanks. The other question I have has to do with cutting the metal. I know this has been dealt with time and again on the archive....but I have a bad memory.

I know someone who has a plasma cutter, but it is a pain to have to run into town evertime I want something cut. What could I cut it with just at my own shop. It is 16 gauge SS.

Llywelyn

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Stay open minded, but not so open minded that your brains fall out.

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I am neater with a 5lbs. cross pein than with a ball point pen!

Armourkris · Post by **Armourkris** » Wed Jul 04, 2001 12:03 am

I'm cutting 16 gauge mild with my jigsaw.
it heats up fast ian is slow work but it works. the blade i;m using is rated for 13 gauge mild so i suspect you could find something that'll go through 16 gauge stainless.
uhm, you can also use a saber saw or if your half mad you could use a chisel. thats what comes to my mind.

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Rainald · Post by **Rainald** » Thu Jul 05, 2001 5:35 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tybolt:
...if your half mad you could use a chisel...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I have cut out about a half of a suit of stainless this way using a chisel, hammer and a swage block to pound into. I cut it out faster than I could have using a a jigsaw and the usually stack of blades. Only down side waas having to resharpen the chisel every 10 minutes and the work required after with a grinder to clean up the edges.

Clay · Post by **Clay** » Thu Jul 05, 2001 11:19 am

Gundo has a really good article on making knees and elbows at the following URL:

http://wiseogre.members.easyspace.com/art14.html

I used this for my knees and they fit really well.

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Llywelyn · Post by **Llywelyn** » Thu Jul 05, 2001 8:25 pm

Greetings,

ok, I got looking at gundo's article. And something he said is different from where i learned to dish. He said to start from the outside and work in. I was under the impression that you started in the middle and worked out. ??????? What Gundo says sounds right, but I want to make sure.

Llywelyn

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Stay open minded, but not so open minded that your brains fall out.

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I am neater with a 5lbs. cross pein than with a ball point pen!

Sasha · Post by **Sasha** » Thu Jul 05, 2001 8:42 pm

For most (like 98%) of applications that is the right way to do it.

sasha