100% cotton is one of those good things for stuffing gambelsons with right??
cuz i went to a different fabric store than usual and found out that they sell these rope like things of pure cotton, they come in sizes from about 2/3" to 1.5" and well, they are pure cotton batting in almost a fishnet like shell, thought they might work nicley to stuff chanels with.
anyone ever fooled around with them?
i might be tempted to get some and tweak out a couple old t-shirts to test it.
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Armourkris
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Yep,
It's called "Cotton Piping Cord." A full spool of 1" contains about 50 yds. and weighs about 10 lbs. Last spool I bought ran $40 @ .79/yd.
Pre-sew your two fabric sides together first in channels about 1 1/2" to 2" apart. Tape the end of the piping tightly with some duct tape, and pull it through the channels with a straightened coat hanger for a needle. That loose fishnet stuff comes off pretty easily, and the compressed cotton will swell. Good stuff in my opinion.
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It's called "Cotton Piping Cord." A full spool of 1" contains about 50 yds. and weighs about 10 lbs. Last spool I bought ran $40 @ .79/yd.
Pre-sew your two fabric sides together first in channels about 1 1/2" to 2" apart. Tape the end of the piping tightly with some duct tape, and pull it through the channels with a straightened coat hanger for a needle. That loose fishnet stuff comes off pretty easily, and the compressed cotton will swell. Good stuff in my opinion.
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Hi, Tybolt-
Making the gambeson was by far the hardest armor project I have tried.
I was planning to use that cotton welting cord for mine, but I balked at the price and used rags instead.
Speaking of cost, you could stuff yards and yards of fabric and cut your pattern out of it. This would waste a lot of effort and expensive welting cord.
Instead, before you start, test-stuff a measured width of fabric with your stuffing, and see how much width you lose to plumpness. Then, widen your pattern pieces that much.
Cut out doubles of every piece, sew long channels, and then pull the stuffing through. You won't waste any time or material stuffing cloth you don't need.
If you're planning a stuffed gambeson, you might find this page helpful.
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Making the gambeson was by far the hardest armor project I have tried.
I was planning to use that cotton welting cord for mine, but I balked at the price and used rags instead.
Speaking of cost, you could stuff yards and yards of fabric and cut your pattern out of it. This would waste a lot of effort and expensive welting cord.
Instead, before you start, test-stuff a measured width of fabric with your stuffing, and see how much width you lose to plumpness. Then, widen your pattern pieces that much.
Cut out doubles of every piece, sew long channels, and then pull the stuffing through. You won't waste any time or material stuffing cloth you don't need.
If you're planning a stuffed gambeson, you might find this page helpful.
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Miror Otium Negotium Multum Requirare
I have presumed that gambeson patterns from the 13th century were similar in design to tunic patterns. Unlike modern patterns, our forbears wasted very little when it came to cutting cloth; a rectangular front and back flared with two gores is very fabric efficient.
Although stuffing the channels with rags was also a technique in use, there is some evidence that the fabric was still pre-stuffed before the pattern was cut out. For example, the Maciejowski Bible shows a definite bulge at the bases of half-sleeve gambesons which is indicative of heming an already stuffed material. Similar humps are seen over the shoulders, as one would see when insetting a stuffed sleeve, thereby doubling the thickness of the gambeson.
Although stuffing the channels with rags was also a technique in use, there is some evidence that the fabric was still pre-stuffed before the pattern was cut out. For example, the Maciejowski Bible shows a definite bulge at the bases of half-sleeve gambesons which is indicative of heming an already stuffed material. Similar humps are seen over the shoulders, as one would see when insetting a stuffed sleeve, thereby doubling the thickness of the gambeson.
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well as to planning for the shrikage due to stuffing there is a very simple realtionship.
The most you can stuff a channel results in a circular tube. this circle is formed equally from the fronting and backing. thus the fabric used must be equal to the sum of the half circumfrences. of course, we then need a ratio of circumfence (actual fabric) to diameter (distance covered X 2). WAIT...we have one its pi. therefore the amount of fabric needed should be distance covered X 1/2 pi.
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The most you can stuff a channel results in a circular tube. this circle is formed equally from the fronting and backing. thus the fabric used must be equal to the sum of the half circumfrences. of course, we then need a ratio of circumfence (actual fabric) to diameter (distance covered X 2). WAIT...we have one its pi. therefore the amount of fabric needed should be distance covered X 1/2 pi.
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