14th Cent. bell cuff gaunts *pic*

Sasuke · Post by **Sasuke** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 5:58 pm

I finally finished a set of gauntlets I started a while ago. They are stainless with brass trim. The bucklers are hopefully enough to appease the SCA marshals. I riveted the cuff on since I can't weld stainless.
[img]http://www.oaksarmoury.com/14thcentgaunts/images/brassgaunt1.jpg[/img]
Sasuke

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muttman · Post by **muttman** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 6:04 pm

Those are damned nice! If your`e going to be making them to sell at some point, and can make them stand-alone SCA legal, let Me know a ballpark price for mild steel. I think we`ll have to talk. I would have to wait until after the holidays tho

John

Rev. George · Post by **Rev. George** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 6:58 pm

i think that's the purpose of the finger bucklers, to provide the bridge SCA marshalls require...

-+G

Edric · Post by **Edric** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 7:51 pm

Man I have always loved the way the hourglass gauntlets look. Those are beautiful. I was planning on making some like this at some point. What did you use to make the pyramid shaped knuckle gadlings? Would you be interested in selling them as parts? and if so how much would you charge a piece?

*wipes druel out of beard*

Also, do you have any pics of the thumb?

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white mountain armoury · Sat Nov 10, 2001 7:59 pm

you are realy producing some great stuff

Bob H · Post by **Bob H** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 8:02 pm

You should ask your marshall, last I heard finger gauntlets were being allowed as "equivalent" to hockey gloves.

Sasuke · Post by **Sasuke** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 8:19 pm

Thanks for the compliments.
I can make the fingers SCA legal without changing the look too much.
I make the finger gadlings by first dishing the piece and then squaring off the edges and peak over the corner of some bar stock. I would consider making just the gadlings for sale but I don't know what price right now. Email me if you want to discuss it some more.
The thumb looks almost exactly like the fingers.
Sasuke

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Stoffel · Post by **Stoffel** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 8:30 pm

Just wondering, what do you plan to use the gaunts with that would require bucklers? A pole weapon perhaps? I just built myself a pair of bucklers today to use over my gaunts, with a pole axe, and was wondering how well it worked.

Oh, and when you die, someone needs to preserve your brain like Einstiens, for future research.

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Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 9:20 pm

Great work Sasuke!.... I bet they guy that gets those is going to be really happy...

J

(doin' a happy dance.)

Sasuke · Post by **Sasuke** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 9:47 pm

Stoffel you will have to ask Janos

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Derian le Breton · Post by **Derian le Breton** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 11:50 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bob Hurley:
You should ask your marshall, last I heard finger gauntlets were being allowed as "equivalent" to hockey gloves.</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This varies by kingdom. Finger gauntlets that do not directly transfer the force of impact to the weapon are not legal in the Midrealm, but probably are elsewhere.

-Donasian.

Krieger · Post by **Krieger** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 12:00 am

It's nice to see someone taking the time to make beatiful armor.
Nice job
Curious, how much do they weigh (w/ bucklers, w/out)?

Erik Schmidt · Post by **Erik Schmidt** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 2:23 am

Forgive my ignorance, but this is the first time I've heard of finger bucklers. Is this an SCA thing, or are they period? I like the idea.

Great hourglass gaunts by the way Sasuke.

Erik

Armourkris · Post by **Armourkris** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 2:45 am

probly a stupid question, but how are the fingers articulated?
just rivited onto leathers? or onto a glove or is there some other little trick?

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Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 9:57 am

Tybolt,

Though I haven't seen them yet I would assume they are articulated on leathers as I have seen on nearly all finger gaunts I have seen.

Sasuke can give you the specifics of what he did, but thats my guess. If you are interested in constructing finger gaunts yourself pick up Brian Price's book he has a great chapter on them.

J

Sasuke · Post by **Sasuke** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 6:17 pm

Yes, the fingers are articulated on leathers. I have played around with rivet articulated fingers but it is a bear to try and peen them in such tight quarters (though I have a few more things to try before totally giving up).
The plates on the fingertips and at the knuckle are held on by rivets that actually go through the glove. This makes for very snug fit as well as keeping the articulation in line.
Definitely get Brian's book if you are at all interested in making armor. It is worth every penny.
According to my bathroom scale a buckler is 1 lb. and a gauntlet is between 2 and 3 lbs, don't know how accurate the scale is at such minimal weights though.
Honestly I don't know how authentic the bucklers are.
Sasuke

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Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 9:33 pm

I certainly didn't have any historic precidence for the bucklers when I asked for them and got the idea from Cad's site for dealing with both picky kingdom rules, and mass weapon combat (my rules get picky when wielding pole weapons with finger gaunts)

The thumb is the only thing not directly protected by the buckler but from the images I have seen the buckler extends enough past the hand to give secondary protection to the thumb. Also, the gaunt design seems to be pretty protective of the thumb itself. Of course all I have have seen are images so the truth will be known in time.

I can't wait. Wonder if I could cheat and fight long sword and hand block now?

... hmmm....

J

The Lost Scott · Post by **The Lost Scott** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 10:55 pm

Janos now that you have some some more pretty toys you need to make it out to practice Sundays at 2:00 now and let us beat on them. Besides I get tired od being the only guy in fifty pounds of armour and the best looking

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LS

Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 12:14 pm

If I can get my weekends a bit more clear I will. Just treading water these days, but I'd like to make it out.

Thought you were getting some movement on the "look like a knight, not a mad max extra" front at practice?

J

The Lost Scott · Post by **The Lost Scott** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 1:46 pm

The regulars are trying but I'm still the only shiny one there every one else is in leather and/or plastic all 2 of them ans an ocasional newbei but Barn is fighting again which is good.

LS

Ares · Post by **Ares** » Tue Nov 13, 2001 10:26 am

God you shyte looks good...I guess that's what having the right tools means! Are you using the ball hitch to make the metacarples?

Sasuke · Post by **Sasuke** » Tue Nov 13, 2001 9:16 pm

I first dished the metacarple area then put in the creases using a dulled hatchet over a block of wood with a knotch cut in it (one of those times when I really, really wish I had an apprentice or someone to hold the metal for me. Got real old bending over and trying to fish the metal out from under my workbench when it would shoot out from under the hatchet). I then raised the very ends over a large ball bearing welded onto a pipe. A ball hitch would be too large to fit into the knuckle areas.
Having the right tools can make a job so much easier and faster. The trick is knowing which tool is the right one

Sasuke

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Ares · Post by **Ares** » Wed Nov 14, 2001 11:27 am

thanks

14th Cent. bell cuff gaunts pic

14th Cent. bell cuff gaunts pic