Early 16th century helm

Jon Marshal · Post by **Jon Marshal** » Thu May 02, 2002 10:31 pm

What kind of small cap helm would be period to the early 16th century europe? I see armets, barbutes, and sallets. Is there anything small that just covers the skull that one would could wear with armour? I don't want to put a spangen helm with the rest of my kit.
Thanks
Jason

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Thu May 02, 2002 10:47 pm

Arming cap, steel head cover, that went on under the great helm. A padded steel hat, scull fitting round thing, under or over the chain mail coif.

Do not take my word for it I am not historical.

Study and read.

Hal.

Egfroth · Post by **Egfroth** » Fri May 03, 2002 7:55 am

May I suggest you browse through the art section in your local library? I looked through my collection of pictures by Albrecht Du"rer, who is an exact contemporary, but no luck in what you wanted. You might also try Breughel, or others from the same general period. Pictures in art books, particularly of Christ's Passion, often have pictures of common soldiery, who would be the ones to wear such a helmet.

Good luck with it.

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Uryen · Post by **Uryen** » Fri May 03, 2002 8:48 am

i second egfroth's idea. and a good place to look for late mediaeval art on the web is here:
http://gallery.euroweb.hu/index1.html

wcallen · Post by **wcallen** » Fri May 03, 2002 9:02 am

Looking at the contemporary art is always good. I know that I have seen woodcuts from this period where they were wearing simple skull caps of steel. I also know that they were making very cheap salets that were little more than a cap - with a little teeny tail. They were very plain.

They also made some very early burgonets....

Wade

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » Fri May 03, 2002 10:18 pm

Go with a close helm...all the cool kids are doing it. Right Pathfinder?

Jon Marshal · Post by **Jon Marshal** » Mon May 06, 2002 10:50 am

I actually do hope to have a close helm for jousting, that Gundobad is making, but for choreographed fighting on foot I am looking for something a little lighter and open faced. From the good suggestions I have received, I am leaning now towards a small open faced sallet, would that be a celata? perhaps. Or maybe a coif but I don't like how they look, just my personal taste. I have been folowing the construction of the helm from Sinrics pattern and it looks great.
Thank You
Jason