Articulation

Dark Uncle · Post by **Dark Uncle** » Sat Jul 06, 2002 10:30 pm

Being new to the armoring business myself, I was wondering if anyone could enlighten me as to the details of joint artictulation for oh say spaulders and knee cops. Also if anyone has any good ideas on how to create a dishing surface easily that would be helpful.

Dark Uncle

Dragon · Post by **Dragon** » Sat Jul 06, 2002 11:07 pm

http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001897-2.html
or
http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum3/HTML/002168.html
for Dishes. I believe there are essays in the Essay section on Articulation.

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Thomas of Tadcaster · Sat Jul 06, 2002 11:08 pm

look in the pattern archive located here. especially Sinric's patterns (lots of pictures, patterns and instructions).

As for dishing surfaces, a cheap method is a tree stump with a half sphere cut/burned/scraped out.

Dark Uncle · Post by **Dark Uncle** » Sat Jul 06, 2002 11:13 pm

I have actually looked extensively at all of sinrics patterns but I am not sure as to whether or not the joints are simply riveted to each other or to a leather strap that is underneath. I have seen in his spaulders that he uses the leather but not on the legs. wouldnt the knees not bend properly if the cops were just riveted solid to the lames??

Klangiron Skullthumpa · Sat Jul 06, 2002 11:36 pm

Rest assured that they'll work. That's the basic way that elbow and knee cops are attached. Sasha has a nice article on useing G clamps to find the articulation points. after you clamp it together and have them fitted it is just a matter of moving the clamps around to find the sweet spot. When you find it mark it and drill/punch your holes. Then assemble the whole thing together will bolts and tweak everthing like you want it. Then get your rivets and fasten it together. It's better to attach the outside lames together before attaching them to the cop. The fan often gets in the way.

Dark Uncle · Post by **Dark Uncle** » Sat Jul 06, 2002 11:41 pm

Cool Thanks

woodwose · Post by **woodwose** » Sun Jul 07, 2002 1:34 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dark Uncle:
I have seen in his spaulders that he uses the leather but not on the legs. wouldnt the knees not bend properly if the cops were just riveted solid to the lames??</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

something other's should have pointed out..
the lames are not riveted solidly to the cop or each other, though they are indeed riveted to each other. The rivets are left slightly loose so they can turn and and if shaped properly, the plates will be able to articulate through the desired range of motion.

Other areas, such as the rivets on the back of the spaulder, can also be done sort of like that instead of articulating plates to leather.. but to get it to move properly, the holes are enlarged into slots that allow the riveted plates to slide back and forth over each other

Herve · Post by **Herve** » Sun Jul 07, 2002 2:09 pm

Did you check this out?
Gundo's Essay
Very helpfull IMO .

-Herve

taltosh · Post by **taltosh** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 11:11 am

My first set of knees was articulated the following way. After determining the hole placement so that there would be no gaposis and enough mobility I inserted a small spacer between the cop and the lame then peined the rivet in place. Makes for a good articulation. Then again, it was my first try at rivet art. so the next one I will probably opt to drill or punch one of the holes just a touch larger (say 1/64" larger than the rivet hole) and let that create the movement.

For my spaulders I entirely like the leather articulation.