Ugo and Patrick sitting in a tree

Cet · Post by **Cet** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:12 am

Very nice! Will there be a helmet coming?

James Arlen Gillaspie · Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:12 am

Yep... that's about as good as aluminum ever looks!

(but it still always looks like aluminum! Can't he'p it!) I'm going to have to start playing with it myself, soon, for stage stuff.

RenJunkie · Post by **RenJunkie** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:51 am

Is that plackart hard riveted to the BP, or is it a bunch of sliding rivets? Also, does the plackart and the back plates extend down to her hip bones as they appear to? It seems like that would be low, but I know you and Ugo wouldn't make something that doesn't work right.

I think I heard of infantry harnesses sometimes being like that. Now that I've gotten over the pure stunningness of the armour and her...I can ask a technical question or two.

before I look at the pics again....lol

Thanks,
Christopher

Gundo · Post by **Gundo** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:38 pm

I don't think I've seen armor that beautiful, on a woman that beautiful, before.

Duco de Klonia · Post by **Duco de Klonia** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:50 pm

Congrats, men!

You allready are as good I hope to be one day.

Looks really great.

Question- is it made for a movie or something like that???

luke binks · Post by **luke binks** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:30 pm

Well done Guys, nice work. Im sure that was an enjoyable project

She Reminds me of Artesia

Luke

Otto von Teich · Post by **Otto von Teich** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:41 pm

Gundo wrote:I don't think I've seen armor that beautiful, on a woman that beautiful, before.

Thats it. its the best of both worlds. Anyone that says armour isnt art needs to see this....Otto

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:49 pm

Naughty, Padrig!

Mike Garret, if you syncopate it a bit you can still get all the letters in:

A

R-M

O-U-R

I N G!

-- First comes the back
Then comes the breast
Then comes the conquest of the West
?

Well, I dunno.

P.S.: Luke, you're right. Funny how that artist drew roped edges, though.

Destichado · Post by **Destichado** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:15 am

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!

I'm over here, jumping up and down because for YEARS, when anyone suggested that you could make armor that was distinctly femenine while still being functional and historically based, we'd get shouted down -recently, even. The line was always "no deviation from established examples without forfeit of functionality". Pictures and concept sketches would pop up and get yawned at.

You guys come along and blow the whole thing to the moon and get paid to do it! Bless you both.

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:06 am

luke binks wrote:She Reminds me of Artesia

Which is to be made into a movie so I wonder if that is what this is for.

Raymund · Post by **Raymund** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:28 pm

If its for Artesia, when will you do this suit... http://www.artesiaonline.com/gallery/ar ... yart1.html ?

*ehum*

/R

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:59 pm

Puts the breast in breastplate, don't it?

Cool enough for the weather in Ansteorra or Trimaris... but no way is she walking in those legs... unless the world of Artesia did some industrial espionage on Buck Roger's 25th century, got the secret of Inertron and now the legs hold themselves up.

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:05 pm

OK enough about the pretty women. We all have the internet, we can see pretty women any time we want. Pretty ARMOR is why we come to this message board.

Care to share info about the armoring technique. I've never seen anyone get aluminum to take quite that complex a shape before. I'd like to duplicate the technique on a different project.

Did you anneal the aluminum before shaping? If so what was your process. Did and of the plates require multiple annealing passes during shaping or was it just once? Did you work the aluminum hot (as I assume) or just cold. If hot how long does aluminum hold it's heat compared to steel? What was your heating process and how hot did you get it?

I'm assuming the elbows were welded? If so cany special info about that? If not welded how the F@#% did you get that complex a shape out of one piece?

Any difference in tools for working aluminum? Did you switch to wooden mallets rather then steel to reduce the scaring and denting.

Come on. In quiring minds want to know.
Sean

Kenwrec Wulfe · Post by **Kenwrec Wulfe** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:20 pm

That is horrible! I insist that you send her and the armour to me right now so I can fix it!!

Seriously though...that is some excellent stiff!!...er...STUFF!!

RalphS · Post by **RalphS** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:45 pm

Sean Powell wrote:Care to share info about the armoring technique. I've never seen anyone get aluminum to take quite that complex a shape before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6061_aluminum
I've only worked just a tiny bit with aluminium, and no idea which alloy it was (though it was definitely soft). Cold it worked a bit like iron near forging temperature, and could be hammered out to paper thickness without cracking. Quite pleasant stuff to work with.

Patrick and Ugo: Looks great! Next time more articulation in the cuirass and closer following of the lines of the model/actress, I know you can! (though not in 4 and a half days perhaps...)

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:36 pm

Nice work guys, look good.

Sean Powell wrote:Care to share info about the armoring technique. I've never seen anyone get aluminum to take quite that complex a shape before. I'd like to duplicate the technique on a different project.

I'm assuming the elbows were welded? If so cany special info about that? If not welded how the F@#% did you get that complex a shape out of one piece?

Sean

Aluminum is available in a wide range of alloys and harnesses. If you get "0" temper metal, or 1000 series aluminum, it works very very easily.
The same way it is near impossible to work hardened steel. It is the same with most metals.

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:38 pm

Yes the armour is quality, but is that Sandra Bullock?

mercenary · Post by **mercenary** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:13 pm

This is far better than Mandy, IMO.

sha-ul · Post by **sha-ul** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:33 am

very nice work

but a question for the craftsmen; what are the measurements for the lass?
as it appears that here waist is on the small side of itty bitty

I didnt know they came quite that small

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:41 am

Sha-ul,

Ever hear of corset training?

Hal

sha-ul · Post by **sha-ul** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:02 am

ah...yes I have, but in the words of a tv commercial....that's not natural

btw I was referring to original equipment

RalphS · Post by **RalphS** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:31 am

sha-ul wrote:as it appears that her waist is on the small side of itty bitty I didnt know they came quite that small

Yes they do, even in the wild. I've been working with a girl on a gothic cuirass for her which is not worthy to be mentioned in this thread, but her dimensions are comparable to (and IMHO even better than) those of the lady shown here. Great fun and an immense source of inspiration!

sha-ul · Post by **sha-ul** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:30 pm

RalphS wrote:Yes they do, even in the wild. ....., but her dimensions are comparable to (and IMHO even better than) those of the lady shown here

now THAT I would like to see

Mike F · Post by **Mike F** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:13 pm

RalphS wrote:Yes they do, even in the wild. I've been working with a girl on a gothic cuirass for her which is not worthy to be mentioned in this thread, . . .

Is this the lovely lady from the ARS conference, or do you have a line of beautiful women to get your armor? If so, how do I do that?

Alcyoneus · Post by **Alcyoneus** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:20 pm

The operations cost $30+, I hear.

Making you beautiful might cost a bit extra.

edgarp · Post by **edgarp** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:44 pm

I am a producer for the upcoming HD feature film Shroud (2007). Thought everyone might like to a professional shot of the armour:

http://www.jetrefilm.com/shroud1_lo-res.jpg

Enjoy!!!

Edgar

edgarp · Post by **edgarp** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:51 pm

A Few More:

http://www.jetrefilm.com/shroud2_lo-res.jpg

http://www.jetrefilm.com/shroud3_lo-res.jpg

sha-ul · Post by **sha-ul** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:56 pm

[img]http://www.jetrefilm.com/Nicole2Blo-res.jpg[/img]

when & where can we hope to see this movie?

edgarp · Post by **edgarp** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:04 pm

sha-ul wrote:when & where can we hope to see this movie?

We begin filming February 1st on a 5 week shoot at multiple locations across Texas. Stay tuned for more details...

Ugo · Post by **Ugo** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:27 pm

Hi guys, I've been working & forgot to check back.

I did the elbows without welds, all raised. Out of 18ga al. like the rest of the suit.

All the tools are the same no special magic or "Lay-Zors" required. I've raised helmets without heat out of it.

It's a great training metal & I use it often for testing & teaching.

The actresses' waist was even a tiny bit smaller, but it allows for whatever she'll be wearing underneath. We had her bending, squatting, kicking in it & there weren't any problems with movement etc.

Hey Ralph!!!! How's Katja's armour coming along?

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:31 pm

Thanks edgarp
New Member,
for the great pics.

We will sure want to see this one.

Hal

Mike England · Post by **Mike England** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:14 pm

Does the "poster" have any kind of a finish to make it look more like steel?

Destichado · Post by **Destichado** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:24 pm

you think it looks like steel?

Ugo · Post by **Ugo** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:32 pm

(assssssssss...)

Hey Mike,
Just a wire wheeled finish with some schmootz to dull down the "coldness" of the aluminum. Normally I use chemicals for this, but there wasn't enough time to order them.

William Lee · Post by **William Lee** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:45 pm

(edited to correct unwarranted snark)

Ugo:

Gorgeous! And the gothic half-suit is pretty smokin', too!

Ugo and Patrick sitting in a tree

Armour For HD Feature Film - Shroud (2007)