OK, well all of these recent topics about kits and helmets has intrigued me.
I would like to see the development of the kettle hat, from the earliest known to late period.
I personally love the later stuff. Then "spangen" construction of the later period kettle hats intrigues me. It is such an earlier period type of construction but with style.
Development of the kettle hat
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Benedek
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That is a nice looking helm.
Thanks for the pic.
I would of tig welded inside and out the side to side band... to the brow band vertical interface.
This gives a seamless appearance.
You know, with the proper grinding and polish it is invisible....
Also I would not form the raised band flutes by machine.
It has a touch of the McBible to it.
Unnoticeable Goliath Yes?
The frosted finish is what the green scotchbrite and oil will do.
Hal
Ps: History of the kettle will take us all the way to 1945.
I agree, a pic essay would be nice.
I have some Dough-Boy helms on my shelf.
Would not cut them up to make SCA kettle helms for the world.
Ps Ps: If one was to pour a tin/lead alloy into a 1939 kettle army helm, this may make a very cool kettle forming hammering type of tool.
Bad thing is the high cost of the alloy now days.
One could punt and use lead... however; it's nasty stuff it leaves stains on everything.
Thanks for the pic.
I would of tig welded inside and out the side to side band... to the brow band vertical interface.
This gives a seamless appearance.
You know, with the proper grinding and polish it is invisible....
Also I would not form the raised band flutes by machine.
It has a touch of the McBible to it.
Unnoticeable Goliath Yes?
The frosted finish is what the green scotchbrite and oil will do.
Hal
Ps: History of the kettle will take us all the way to 1945.
I agree, a pic essay would be nice.
I have some Dough-Boy helms on my shelf.
Would not cut them up to make SCA kettle helms for the world.
Ps Ps: If one was to pour a tin/lead alloy into a 1939 kettle army helm, this may make a very cool kettle forming hammering type of tool.
Bad thing is the high cost of the alloy now days.
One could punt and use lead... however; it's nasty stuff it leaves stains on everything.
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This is the earliest representation I'm aware of showing a kettle hat - at least in a mediaeval Western European context. It comes from the Liber ad honorem Augusti of Peter of Eboli, dated to about 1195.
However, there is a Byzantine representation of what might be a form of kettle hat in the Menologion of Emperor Basil II (dated c. 1017).
And if you want to go to late Roman times, there are representations of a helmet that could be thought of as a sort of kettle, which then seems to have been adopted by the Carolingian Franks (unless they just copied Roman pictures)
However, there is a Byzantine representation of what might be a form of kettle hat in the Menologion of Emperor Basil II (dated c. 1017).
And if you want to go to late Roman times, there are representations of a helmet that could be thought of as a sort of kettle, which then seems to have been adopted by the Carolingian Franks (unless they just copied Roman pictures)
Egfroth
It's not really armour if you haven't bled on it.
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