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Alrighty, an appeal to the knowledgeable folks out there...

Inspired by the new "no visible plastic" rule in Atlantia I'm drastically altering the kit I am building for myself, and I'm beseaching you all, my friends, to help with inspiration...

So... This is what I'm building on.

So far:

I've got a durable, padded arming jacket(gabeson, arming coat, whatever), which I can point armour onto.

What I want...

Spaulders/Pauldrons for the shoulders, Full arms with vams, artic. elbows, and reres, Half Gaunts, and full legs...

Torso will be hidden under:
Some sort of tabard/surcoat/something to cover the chest...

An appropriate helm to match...

Suggestions, pictures, etc... all are welcome...

Specifically, some info on what period all this would be appropriate within...

Thanks folks...




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Matthew Broadway (mattbroadway1974@yahoo.com)
Founder of The Armour Archive
Jack of All Trades... Master of none.

You know you'll probably only be able to get the ArCtic elbows from either warren, patric sain or wombat right?



Not a helpfull post I know but I couldn't resist.

BTW you spelt arctic wrong.

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The budding mid 14th century German Transitional guy.
Mad Matt's Armory

Well, full arms were used for the first time in the 14th century, and it depends on what style you use, to a certain degree.

Also, the deciding point will be the helmet.

I would look at either the 14th or 15th century. In the 14th, you will probably be in a bascinet or a great helm. In the 15th, you will be in a sallet, barbute or armet.

Your torso can be covered in a tabard, but, ugh, why? You could use a myriad of heraldic surcoats with proper form and tailoring. Makes a huge difference. If you're 14th century, use a surcoat that is tailored over a globose breast plate. A kydex version that can be attached with points to your arming coat can be had from Talon armory for $50. I make pockets on the back of my arming coat to hold kydex kidney and spine protection. (easy to form, too-just heat and insert in the pocket; wear until cool).

I would encourage you to explore using a coat of plates or a corazinna for 14th c. For 15th century, use a brigandine.

There are also a number of options in mixing kydex, surcoats and breast plates over the surcoat for a really spiff look of the 14th-early 15th style. Check out German Medieval Armies 1300-1500. I use kydex back and spaulders, wear a dagged houpellande over it and then a globose stainless breast over that.

Good luck.

[This message has been edited by Trevor (edited 02-18-2003).]

I agree with trevor about the helm. What you're putting together would fit from the 1350's to the 1450's depending on the helm you put together with it. I think a pig nosed bas or globose/clappvisor type bas would look really nice with what you're putting together. A Corazinna for body armour would go nicely with the whole outfit as well. For Greaves and sabatons you can't beat Carlo of Truhearth for the greaves and Mad Matt for the sabs. Another source of nice sabs is Illusion. For your surcote look at the Period Patterns Military Garments II and check out the "Lentner" that's part of that group of patterns. It looks very close to the over-garment hanging above the Black Prince's tomb which is a replica of the one he wore. It also lends itself well to a heraldic-type over garment. May I suggest Rev George as a possible source for your over garment? He made one for me in my arms colors and it came out really nice..... http://webpages.charter.net/nolead/armour2.jpg I'd like to see a pic when you get this all together. It sounds like a cool looking kit.


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Quid Curone

[This message has been edited by edward atte flynt (edited 02-18-2003).]

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Matthew Broadway (mattbroadway1974@yahoo.com)
Founder of The Armour Archive
Jack of All Trades... Master of none.