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Return of the Waistcoat "Suit" (DONE, with new pic

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:22 pm
by Bryan Wiggins
So I've made a little progress and figured I'd post. The cuirass is nearly done and I've got pauldrons sort of roughed in. Needs a little TLC, as I've left it sitting around in my studio after touching it with my "acid hands of death" and there are rusty finger prints all over it.

For those who missed it last time, this will be a half suit of waistcoat style construction, but modernized to look like a cloth suit. The main part of the cuirass is based off of this example. All 18ga mild.

[img]http://my.lsu.edu/ewiggi2//Armor/Senior ... _front.jpg[/img][img]http://my.lsu.edu/ewiggi2//Armor/Senior ... 9_back.jpg[/img]

And with it open:

[img]http://my.lsu.edu/ewiggi2//Armor/Senior ... t_open.jpg[/img][img]http://my.lsu.edu/ewiggi2//Armor/Senior ... k_open.jpg[/img]

Questions/comments/criticisms/complaints highly encouraged :)

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:26 pm
by AvM
This is awesome beyond all belief, thanks for reposting it. :D

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:27 pm
by Kilkenny
I still love it.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:00 am
by Konstantin the Red
LOL -- whee! :D

Now you know who to look to when you have way too much money and you always really really wanted one in plaid.

Maybe Good Sir Coat would want one too.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:05 am
by Jean Paul de Sens
There aren't enough synonyms for cool to describe that suit.

In short, it's awesome.

JP

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:29 am
by Eamonn MacCampbell
Konstantin the Red wrote:LOL -- whee! :D

Now you know who to look to when you have way too much money and you always really really wanted one in plaid.

Maybe Good Sir Coat would want one too.
You're never gonna let me live that mistake down are you????? :oops:

And yes...I would love to one for when we get some C&T uo here in Artemisia.......That is bad ass and...well I can't think of anything else with all this drool coming out and making my keyboard slippery.... :P

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:33 am
by Sam O.
Have you added detail to the collar since we last saw it?
Also how much does it weigh?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:04 am
by Ugo
Awwww!!!! C'mon!!!! Ya beat me to it!!! I'm working on a steampunk arm with an exchange pincer/hand/ minigun!

Do you have more pics?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:00 am
by InsaneIrish
Ya know, every once in a great while someone makes something that is so cool that it turns internet viral. Ie, it will get periodically posted on armour forums with the tags "check this out!". The mouse armour, the cat armour, certain extant helmets, most anything Ugo makes, etc.

you know the pieces I speak of?

Those pieces that seem to capture the mind's eye with excitement?


Well, my friend, you have made one.


Truely a piece of functional art.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:57 am
by Bryan Wiggins
Thanks everyone for all of the kind words. There have been several occasions when I wanted to just smash the whole thing because I couldn't figure bits of it out. It's good to know all of that frustration makes someone happy :D
Findlæch wrote:Have you added detail to the collar since we last saw it?
Also how much does it weigh?
Yes, I have. The collar/lapels have been completely remade and now include roping, etching, a step, and two turn pins on the back of the collar to allow the whole thing to open. Here's what it looked like before:

[img]http://my.lsu.edu/ewiggi2/Armor/SeniorP ... sFront.jpg[/img][img]http://my.lsu.edu/ewiggi2/Armor/SeniorP ... ssBack.jpg[/img]
[img]http://my.lsu.edu/ewiggi2/Armor/SeniorP ... ssSide.jpg[/img]

No idea on the weight. I can weigh it the next time I'm down in my studio.
Ugo wrote:Do you have more pics?
Well there are 3 more up there. I have some progress pics and this pic with what I have of the pauldrons:

[img]http://my.lsu.edu/ewiggi2/Armor/SeniorP ... ldrons.jpg[/img]

If there's anything in particular you want to see let me know and I can snap more pics of it.

InsaneIrish, I sure hope so :)

I'll post more pics as I get things done. This sucker has to be completed by May so I can put it in our BFA show.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:28 am
by Saint-Sever
Damn.

This takes the concept of "namban-gusoku" into the realm of the modern Japanese corporate "salary-man".

Tres' cool!

Michael

Well what can I say..

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:41 am
by Saranchar
Every woman (even in the middle ages) loves a well dressed man... Wow! Beautiful work and artistry! :D

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:05 pm
by Otto von Teich
Toooo cooool. Now you need a steel fedora :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:33 pm
by Atreides
That is super sexy can't wait to see what it looks like when its done

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:09 pm
by James B.
Really cool art.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:45 pm
by Garreth
Eric,
Truely and inspiring piece of work! Before the crash, some mentioned doing a matching hat. I believe the term used was "chapel de fedora" :D

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:22 pm
by Strongbow
Amazing.

Personally, I think you should name this harness "Prom Knight"

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:20 pm
by Bryan Wiggins
Thanks again everyone :D
Findlæch wrote:Also how much does it weigh?
The waistcoat and tassets weigh a total of 14 lbs.

The fedora will likely have to be one of those lagniappe things that will have to wait until after the BFA show, but it would certainly complete the look.
Strongbow wrote:Personally, I think you should name this harness "Prom Knight"
LOL I hadn't thought of that one :)

I took a bunch of extra shots of some of the details for those interested. You can check them out here.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:48 am
by Konstantin the Red
Eamonn MacCampbell wrote: You're never gonna let me live that mistake down are you????? :oops:
Now come on, Eamonn, you're not the only one any more! :twisted: There is at least one other now who "knoweth Good Sir Coat."

And really, can you imagine G.S.C. not wanting one of these if he saw it? 8) I can't. Just can't.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:56 am
by Steve_A
Otto von Teich wrote:Toooo cooool. Now you need a steel fedora :wink:
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And a "chapel de ferdora":

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Here are the shoes that could go with the suit. They keep to the spirit of the cockroach killer pointy toes that the 15th C. sabatons have:

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Now, all you have to do is get a steel carnation for your lapel and you will be ready to take on all challenges in style!

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:09 pm
by Bleddyn De Caldicot
Gives 14th century mafia a new meaning (yes I know this style is later than the 14th century but I couldn't resist :P ) just need to shape your rattan like a baseball bat or tommy gun!

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:13 pm
by Vermin
I'd REALLY like more pics of how the collar/lapels work and how they're attached.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:45 pm
by chef de chambre
As I said before, this is one of the coolest modern interpretations I have ever seen.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:31 am
by Konstantin the Red
Anyway, Eamonn, it's at the very bottom of this thread:

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... h+sir+coat

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:37 am
by Uryen
It is supurb. Now the lapels are done, it looks finished.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:27 pm
by Bryan Wiggins
Meh. Got an arm and some detail shots. I forgot to weigh the damned thing, so I'll have to do that.

I'm not too happy with the arm right now. The transition from the pauldron is a little awkward, but it's too late to rework it. It'll grow on me I think. Everything needs a little tweaking. Any suggestions?

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More pics here.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:41 pm
by Ingvarr
ericbryanwiggins wrote: The fedora will likely have to be one of those lagniappe things that will have to wait until after the BFA show, but it would certainly complete the look.
Maybe you can borrow this in the mean time.

I am really in love with this coat.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:01 pm
by Victor Martin
Since you're not especially happy with the pauldron/arm transition, how 'bout this for a thought:

Starting at the point where the half-round plate on the outside of the pauldron ends, taper the pauldron on the same line as the lapel of the suit. This would give a "Zuit Suit" feel to it and might also give you a little better range of motion. Just a comment from the peanut gallery.

I must say, that is one darn sexy bit tailoring!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:03 pm
by RoaK
You could have a few more plates come down at a taper from the pauldron to the elbow joint. You wouldn't have to use armor grade plates for that as they would just be cosmetic.

Just a thought.
ericbryanwiggins wrote:Meh. Got an arm and some detail shots. I forgot to weigh the damned thing, so I'll have to do that.

I'm not too happy with the arm right now. The transition from the pauldron is a little awkward, but it's too late to rework it. It'll grow on me I think. Everything needs a little tweaking. Any suggestions?

Image

More pics here.

DONE

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:46 pm
by Bryan Wiggins
Now I just have to build the stand...

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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:12 pm
by Sigurd Fjalarson
That turned out fantastic! :D

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:40 pm
by James Arlen Gillaspie
The pauldrons LOOK pretty cool (cooler than I thought they would), but they're not gonna work. You might consider a modified spaudler design (gotta keep those squared-off shoulders!).

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:53 pm
by Bryan Wiggins
James Arlen Gillaspie wrote:The pauldrons LOOK pretty cool (cooler than I thought they would), but they're not gonna work. You might consider a modified spaudler design (gotta keep those squared-off shoulders!).
Because they aren't designed properly, or because the lapels will get in the way? It's too late to change them now (the show starts Monday) but I'd like to know for future reference. Thanks!

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:07 pm
by InsaneIrish
James Arlen Gillaspie wrote:The pauldrons LOOK pretty cool (cooler than I thought they would), but they're not gonna work. You might consider a modified spaudler design (gotta keep those squared-off shoulders!).
Actually if you are referring to range of motion, then I would say they are spot on. Fitted suit jackets are not designed to put your hands over your head. The seams are sewn so that you keep your arms at your sides, or bend at the elbow. Full range of arm movement is not really wanted.

excellent job man.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:26 pm
by Thomas Powers
Make sure you get some pics posted on the steampunk sites---I'm buying stock in drool proof keyboards!

Thomas